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    McCarthy Weaponizing Congress For Political Hit

    McCarthy has stepped way out of bounds in calling for an investigation of the Manhattan District Attorney over his investigation of Trump. It seems to me any federal investigation should come from the DOJ, not the House of Representatives. It is nothing more than harassment and intimidation in an effort to protect Trump. If this isn't abuse of office and grounds for impeachment, it sure makes a good case.

    House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) on Saturday announced a congressional investigation into the local prosecutors reportedly preparing to indict former President Trump.
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    McCarthy accused Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg of “an outrageous abuse of power” and of “pursu[ing] political vengeance against President Trump” in a tweet posted Saturday morning.

    “I’m directing relevant committees to immediately investigate if federal funds are being used to subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutions,” McCarthy said.
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    I'm all for kev's antics----he is giving as much help as possible to ending the rinos game. It just proves that some people are perfectly alright with no morals or principles---what would keep any normal man awake at night never enters their pea brains
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    And it gets worse:

    Three key House GOP chairmen took the extraordinary step on Monday of seeking to intervene in an investigation into Donald Trump ahead of potential criminal charges the former president may face. The move underscores the lengths House Republicans are going to try to defend Trump ahead of a potential indictment, even as they acknowledge they don’t know the full scope of any potential charges.
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    Really? Some out of control congressmen are attempting to intimidate a district attorney in the middle of a criminal investigation to protect their cohort? That in itself should be criminal.
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    This crap is why I am an independent and until the gop gets its house together I will not vote for their current crop of " laws don't apply to us" wingnuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuy View Post
    This crap is why I am an independent and until the gop gets its house together I will not vote for their current crop of " laws don't apply to us" wingnuts.
    No need to say exactly the same goes for me---f****** rinos
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    So some partizan DA wants to charge Trump because he paid off a hooker to keep her silent . BIG WHOOP .

    Where is all this outrage when clinton did it ? . How about 17 million paid out by members of congress for the same thing .

    Call me when there is an actual crime .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    So some partizan DA wants to charge Trump because he paid off a hooker to keep her silent . BIG WHOOP .
    I agree with that!

    As long as it wasn't bribery. I don't much care about Trump's hush money. I don't much care about Clinton's payoffs. I don't much care about congress critter's hush money. I don't much care if they are democrats or republicans or martians. And, let me be very clear, I don't care unless what they did was illegal or to coverup an illegal act.

    What I do care about is using partisan political power to interfere with the lawful investigations by law enforcement, and that includes interfering with the district attorneys. Let them do their jobs and let the courts decide the outcome. If it can be found any member of law enforcement or a district attorney's office violated the law in their investigations, by all means prosecute them. But, that is not a job for Congress, it is a job for the DOJ, or state and local prosecuters.

    Stop all this partisan political playground bullying and do your damn jobs!
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    What does being a Democrat or Republican have to do with whether Trump committed a crime?

    I enjoy the "whataboutism" that is being used to deflect blame. What exactly are you saying, IV? That because Clinton got away with being a scumbag, so should Trump? That's not much of a recommendation for the man. It just means you are doing what you apparently didn't like when Clinton supporters did it - finding excuses for the inexcusable. How about a different approach - not accepting scumbags even if it is someone from your own tribe? Might mean a better class of politicians all around.

    And speaking for what has become a minority viewpoint in this country, a person asking me for my vote to the most powerful position in the world needs to show more character than to be paying off porn stars for a night of sex. I am forever befuddled by the excuses Trump's supporters will find to excuse his low behavior.

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    Kevin , I am not excusing his act . I am just stating that he is not the only one and it isn't a crime . I don't know the man . He may be morally bankrupt but Washington and the halls of Congress are replete with morally bankrupt people .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    .......... Washington and the halls of Congress are replete with morally bankrupt people .
    The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke

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    I don't know if he committed a crime. He hasn't even been charged so it is hard to tell. Even if he gets charged with a crime, it still has to be proved to a jury, and at that point, we'll all find out if what he did constitutes a crime or not.

    Just need to be patient.

    I'm sure you are right on your assessment of the moral bankruptcy in Washington. I also know from personal experience that there are good, hard-working and honest people there and I am sure they don't like being cast into the same bucket as people such as Clinton and Trump. Ask a police officer what they think about fellow officers that take a bribe. You'll get the same reaction from the good people that try hard to do a difficult job in Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    I don't know the man . He may be morally bankrupt but Washington and the halls of Congress are replete with morally bankrupt people .
    Dick, that makes it sound like he should be elected as our leader because he is the same as the rest of the scumbags in Washington...And I know that's not what you meant......Ben
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    BTW, being morally bankrupt is not a crime. But as far as I can tell, the grand jury is not being asked to judge his moral character. They are assessing whether grounds exist to charge him with a crime, so trying to pass this off as a simple case of moral bankruptcy is minimizing the issue.

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    I am starting to sound like a broken record: At some point #45s issues will come up before SCOTUS. Then we, America's citizens, will see if our Justice system really is just.

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    Hold the moral outrage, hold the it's not a crime, because as of now the entire argument is total BS Grandstanding. No Charges have been filed about anything. Until a charge laying out the accusation of a committed crime is filed and we read the details everything is just posturing and blowing smoke.
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