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    They have lost their way

    One of the promises House speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) made to the extremist members of the Republican conference to win his position was that he would let them bring the so-called Fair Tax Act to the House floor for a vote. On January 8, Representative Earl “Buddy” Carter (R-GA) introduced the measure into Congress.

    The measure repeals all existing income taxes, payroll taxes, and estate and gift taxes, replacing them with a flat national sales tax of 30% on all purchased goods, rents, and services (which its advocates nonsensically call a 23% tax because, as Bloomberg opinion writer Matthew Yglesias explains their thinking: “if something sells for $100 plus $30 in tax, then it’s a 23% tax—because $30 is 23% of $130”). The measure abolishes the Internal Revenue Service, leaving it up to the states to administer the tax.
    Even without trump the rinos wonder off into fantasyland
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    Even without trump the rinos wonder off into fantasyland
    Apparently taking a detour through Fuzzymathville on the way......Ben
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    Exactly

    ...and this is where "we" came from:

    The measure is illuminating. It explicitly rejects the position, and the principles, of the original Republican Party.

    Members of the Republican Party invented the U.S. income tax during the Civil War, and they created the precursor to the IRS to collect it. To find money to fight the war, they raised tariffs on common products but immediately turned to the novel idea of an income tax, and a graduated one at that, to make sure that “the burdens will be more equalized on all classes of the community, more especially on those who are able to bear them,” as Senator William Pitt Fessenden (R-ME) put it.

    Justin Smith Morrill (R-VT) agreed. “The weight [of] taxation must be distributed equally,” he said, “Not upon each man an equal amount, but a tax proportionate to his ability to pay.”

    The Republicans then quite deliberately constructed a national system for collecting the new taxes. In the midst of the Civil War, they urged their colleagues to imagine what would happen if a disloyal state were permitted to manage the collection itself.
    I'm afraid I have never seen a time when so many are so intent on embarrassing themselves with public masturbation---santos is looking to be not so bad after all
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    I won't worry about it for even a second. It has absolutely no chance of becoming law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I won't worry about it for even a second. It has absolutely no chance of becoming law.
    Without question---but I still marvel at the public display of insanity
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    I think they are just grandstanding to show their base they tried to get the fair tax passed. Gotta have those votes come next election, ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I think they are just grandstanding to show their base they tried to get the fair tax passed. Gotta have those votes come next election, ya know.
    The insane leading the clueless
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    Does that include state/city taxes. Add another 8+% for AZ. Thinking there will be kicking and screaming if the gas tax goes up by that amount.
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    Yes - I agree it's grandstanding - which got our attention for a minute or two.

    Something needs to be done about our tax system. Like my friends here, I'm still waiting to hear it.

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