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    mccarthy is no less foolish than this band of crazies. I have been in many high level business negotiations and for mccarthy to be giving concessions away with nothing in return is simply bizarre. It's a toss up of who is the most inept in this game.

    One key principle that I always kept in mind is that a "good" negotiation is typified by neither side getting everything they wanted.
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    McCarthy loses vote #12.

    However, it appears he will probably win the 13th vote.
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    Gaetz is an ass clown. All he's doing is getting free advertising.
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    Not so, he negotiated for a neon sign on his forehead saying "I'm a total a** hole".
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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    I have to wonder how the need to be the speaker within mccarthy can be so compelling. If he finally makes it, he will have nothing left---truly he will be the epitome of the emperor with no cloths.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    unless they have all those concessions IN WRITING , then they will be useless and he will turn into a little Hitler . As it is Gaetz is toast and will never get on a committee .

    I think I'll dd . it would not surprise me to see Gaetz resign his position very soon . He has to know he will never be given any consideration for anything he may attempt to do.
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    Well, McCarthy has shown he has no principles or convictions so yeah, this agreement should be in writing, notarized and publicized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    I have to wonder how the need to be the speaker within mccarthy can be so compelling. If he finally makes it, he will have nothing left---truly he will be the epitome of the emperor with no cloths.
    Pyrrhic victory.

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    Finally this clown show goes to another ring
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    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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    It's finally over. McCarthy is the new speaker of the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    Pyrrhic victory.
    Exactly----and mccarthy's current glee will fade into harsh reality very quickly.

    Added in edit:

    One of many similar headlines in the morning papers:
    Kevin McCarthy may have just won himself the most dysfunctional Congress ever
    ...and the ultimate losers-----the American public
    Last edited by Dave Grubb; 01-07-2023 at 10:09 AM.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    McCarthy

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    To put a suitable cap on this entire affair:

    McCarthy tried to put a good spin on it but inadvertently undercut confidence in his leadership when he, now the leader of the House, told reporters: “This is the great part…. Because it took this long, now we learned how to govern.”
    Of course you did
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    If that is true, Kevin me boyo, a person might wonder about the wisdom of voting for a bunch of clowns who were unprepared for the job they were seeking.

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