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    Tilt-a building.

    Could you live or work in this building ?. Over a two foot tilt and getting worse .

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/leaning-s...233244444.html

    Dave, can they stop it ?.
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    I would not even want to be near that building. In my unqualified mind it is a time bomb connected to a random time generator. It should be demolished before a major disaster occurs.
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    It most likely can be fixed----if the cost is justified. The leaning tower of Pisa has been stabilized---even pushed back a bit.

    The fact that it is happening is most likely not an engineering mistake but more likely a financial mistake---they were saving money in construction.
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    Even if they can and do stop the ongoing tilt. They probably cannot get it upright again. [ I guess ] I am unable to see how anyone could live or work with a 2 + foot tilt and be productive or comfortable.
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    Most of them probably don't even know it--keep in mind that 2 ft deflection is measured at the highest point. At the ground floor it is minimal.
    It will be most noticeable in doors and fit on the upper floors. The doors stay square, the frames become parallelograms.

    I recently did work in a NYC condo building that swayed 2 feet---it can "bend" your mind figuring ways to deal with that.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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    They went cheap on the foundation and some jack arse in the building dept gave it the green light. Every other building in that area spent the money to sink the support pilings through the clay and mud and into the bedrock some 240 feet below. These guys went with more pilings that never reached the bedrock. That whole area of the city is bay mud and clay. In a big quake that area is prone to liquifaction. They already added some retrofit pilings but they effed up doing it. they waited too long between drilling the new piling and adding the casings which then allowed for more tilt from soil shifting. as for the building. residents have been complaining about windows cracking, plumbing not working right , creaking noises. I will bet in a big quake that sucker is gonna fail.
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    as for the building. residents have been complaining about windows cracking, plumbing not working right , creaking noises
    All because the building was not designed for this kind of movement. Based on previous readings about this you are right on with the foundation issues Eric.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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