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    Another view of Texas

    I have often thought (and said) that it is good that I was not born black for, if I had, I might have been the most militant of all. I have a similar feeling about some of the things that go on in Texas.

    My intent of presenting this is not to embarrass or anger everyone, rather I would like to know your feelings about this and other similar issues that surround your educational system. Do you not have local school boards? Why is it necessary to have a State board to review and approve text books?


    On October 8, the executive director of curriculum and instruction for the Carroll Independent School District in Southlake, Texas, told a teacher to make sure to follow Texas’s new law requiring teachers to present opposing views on controversial subjects. The Carroll school board had recently reprimanded a fourth-grade teacher who had kept an anti-racism book in her classroom, and teachers wanted to know what books they could keep in their own classrooms.
    “Just try to remember the concepts of [House Bill] 3979,” the curriculum director said. “And make sure that if you have a book on the Holocaust,” the director continued, “that you have one that has an opposing, that has other perspectives.”
    The Holocaust was Nazi Germany’s systematic murder of about two thirds of Europe’s Jewish population—about six million people—during World War II.
    “How do you oppose the Holocaust?” one teacher said.
    “Believe me,” the director said. “That’s come up.”
    The Texas legislature passed another law that is going into effect in December. S.B. 3, known as the Critical Race Theory bill. It specifies what, exactly, social studies courses should teach to students. Those guidelines present a vision of how American citizens should perceive their nation.
    They should have “an understanding of the fundamental moral, political, and intellectual foundations of the American experiment in self-government; the history, qualities, traditions, and features of civic engagement in the United States; the structure, function, and processes of government institutions at the federal, state, and local levels.”
    But they should get that information in a specific way: through the Declaration of Independence; the United States Constitution; the Federalist Papers, including Essays 10 and 51; excerpts from Alexis de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America; the transcript of the first Lincoln-Douglas debate; and the writings of the founding fathers of the United States; the history and importance of the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964; and the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Nineteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution.
    While they managed to add in de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America—and I would be shocked if more than a handful of people have ever read that account of early America—there are some pointed omissions from this list. The Fifteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which guarantees Black voting, didn’t make it, although the Nineteenth Amendment, which grants women the right to vote, did. Also missing is the Voting Rights Act of 1965, although the Civil Rights Act of the previous year is there.
    Topics explicitly eliminated from the teaching standard are also instructive. Those things cut from the standards include: “the history of Native Americans,” and “[founding] mothers and other founding persons.”
    Under “commitment to free speech and civil discourse,” topics struck from the standards include “the writings of…George Washington; Ona Judge (a woman Washington enslaved and who ran away); Thomas Jefferson, Sally Hemings (the enslaved woman Jefferson took as a sexual companion after the death of his wife, her half-sister),” and “any other founding persons of the United States.”
    The standards lost Frederick Douglass’s writings, the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850, the Indian Removal Act of 1830 that forced Indigenous Americans off their southeastern lands, and Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists defending the separation of church and state. The standards lost “historical documents related to the civic accomplishments of marginalized populations” including documents related to the Chicano movement, women’s suffrage and equal rights, the civil rights movement, Indigenous rights, and the American labor movement.
    The standards also lost “the history of white supremacy, including but not limited to the institution of slavery, the eugenics movement, and the Ku Klux Klan, and the ways in which it is morally wrong” and “the history and importance of the civil rights movement.” The legislature took three pages to outline all the things that teachers may not teach, including all the systemic biases the right associates with Critical Race Theory (although that legal theory is not taught in K–12 schools), and anything having to do with the 1619 Project.
    Teachers cannot be forced to teach current events or controversial issues, but if they choose to do so, they must “strive to explore that topic from diverse and contending perspectives without giving deference to any one perspective.” Supporters of the measure said that teachers should teach facts and not “choose sides.”
    The lawmakers who wrote the new standards said they had been crafted to eliminate redundancy. In 2019, the state wrote standards to teach character traits—courage, integrity and honesty—and instructions to include particular people or events could simply duplicate those concepts. “If you want to talk about courage, talk about George Washington crossing the Delaware, or William Barret Travis defending the Alamo,” a member of the state board of education said.
    Editing from our history Dolores Huerta, who co-founded the National Farmworkers’ Association—she was eliminated by name—as well as Abigail Adams and Frederick Douglass and the 1924 Snyder Act (by which the nation recognized Indigenous citizenship) does more than whitewash our history. That editing warps what it means to be an American.
    Our history is not about individual feats of courage or honesty in a vacuum. It is about the efforts of people in this country to determine their own fate and to elect a government that will enable them to do that.
    A curriculum that talks about individual courage and integrity while erasing the majority of us, as well as the rules that enable us to have a say in our government by voting, is deliberately untethered from national democratic principles.
    It gives us a school that does not dare take a position on the Holocaust.
    Last edited by Dave Grubb; 10-17-2021 at 10:07 AM.
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    I have never been enamored with the Texas education system. It is governed by the Texas State Board of Education, a governmental agency that embarrasses the state every time they decide which text books will be used by schools in the state. BTW, because of the market size and expense of printing books, those books are used by a large portion of the country regardless of the content. That is similar to how California's CARB regulations manage to be adopted by much of the country.

    The board has 15 members elected from single member districts across the state and a chairman appointed from the elected members by the governor. That might be part of the problem right there since we never seem to have a governor who cares more about the state than what he can get from it. As near as I can tell, based on what I have observed over the years, the board members are usually self-righteous zealots who want to make our children in their own image, hence their aspirations to become members.

    Yes, we do have local school boards but unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, they do little to set the curriculum - that is mostly done by the aforementioned state board.

    And then, we have our wonderful legislature, along with our maniacal governor, who decides along straight political lines what they want taught in our schools, most of which is garbage as you have noted in your opening post.

    In my opinion, the Texas education system has long been broken with no room for repairs as long as everything in the state is governed by far-left/right partisan politics with no room in the middle for common sense. I believe the politicians to be using our education system to indoctrinate our children with their political beliefs to make for future party-line voters. Education be damned!

    Probably not what you are seeking, but my take on the matter.
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    Thank you---and it is encouraging to hear your thoughtful comments, although I wish they weren't necessary.

    I feel sorry for the children educated in that system who at some point in adulthood, hopefully, will have to "unlearn" the biased learning they received.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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    “How do you oppose the Holocaust?”

    It's simply amazing that it's necessary for a teacher to ask that question.

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    Simply the thought of that question being publicly asked in the context of education in this country is, frankly, shocking to me.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTAH View Post
    “How do you oppose the Holocaust?”.....
    Hunter
    That's actually quite simple. You use the same thought processes used by those who think Trump will be reinstated by the Supreme Court.
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    I do not want to sound melodramatic---but unless the rest of us stand up and speak out with reason against these things we could find ourselves outnumbered by those who subscribe to these things.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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    Anti-semitic thought is widespread and sad. Take a look at the attached article.

    https://m.jpost.com/opinion/black-na...e-white-553160
    OPINION....a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    Anti-semitic thought is widespread and sad.
    That's something I have never understood. I know many Jews and, other than their religion, they are no different than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    That's something I have never understood. I know many Jews and, other than their religion, they are no different than me.
    Ditto that...I try not to judge anyone by what church they go to...Some of the weird religions like Satan worshippers and snake handlers I'll never figure out, but as long as nobody is being hurt, particularly the vulnerable like children, the elderly, let them idolize whoever they like...I haven't seen any harm in Judaism, and yet they've been persecuted throughought history...

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    Ignorance breeds fear.. fear breeds hate..

    Have an observant Jewish friend.. was privileged to be invited to his kids bar /bat mitzvah.. and weddings.. what a great time by a wonderful group of people.. one thing that impressed me was that the teen being mitzvahed had to make arrangements for the leftovers from their celebratory dinner.. had to go to a food bank and feed the poor..

    Went to the daughter wedding at the Park Avenue Synagogue, 85th & Madison.. Wowzers.. whole nuther story.. Kosher cocktail reception and prime rib dinner.. only way that I could tell that we were eating kosher is that there was no butter on the table because of the meat.. “locals” dipped their bread in the gravy, issue resolved..

    I received a better welcome at Jewish events than I have at Christian events in a strange church..

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    Christians are too judgmental and hypocritical for my liking.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Christians are too judgmental and hypocritical for my liking.....
    I feel that way about all religions that I am familiar with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Christians are too judgmental and hypocritical for my liking.....
    You "see" those who are judgmental and hypocritical---you don't see all the rest who are not.
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    Nice, Dave.

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