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I'm not going to link multiple news sources from all perspectives as to the Brewing disaster on our border and its impact on border states as well as other states where unvaccinated and undocumented immigrants are being dumped. The president needs to take bold and decisive action now to prevent a huge impending disaster.
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He is already a disaster.
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It’s easier to overlook if it isn’t in your backyard.
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But I have promises to keep,
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And miles to go before I sleep.
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SourceGov. Greg Abbott appeared this week to rebuff help from the federal government to give coronavirus testing to migrants before they are released from federal custody, saying it’s a federal responsibility to screen immigrants coming into Texas.
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The testing in Brownsville was reportedly administered by the city. NBC reported that 6.3% of the migrants tested were confirmed to have the coronavirus. That rate is smaller than the positivity rate statewide, in which an average of 8.3% of tests came back positive over the past seven days. The 108 tests over the past five weeks is a small share of the more than 3,800 confirmed cases in Cameron County reported by the state since Jan. 25.
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After Abbott began upbraiding Biden for releasing the migrants, CNN reported that the Department of Homeland Security had tried to use Federal Emergency Management Agency dollars to help local officials test migrants released from federal custody and isolate them if they test positive. The grant money needed state approval to be allocated, CNN reported.
Abbott seemed to make clear Thursday that he was not interested in the federal offer. He argued in a statement that border security is "strictly a federal responsibility," and thus the Biden administration alone should "test, screen, and quarantine" migrants who may have COVID-19.
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The release of asylum seekers from custody with notices to appear has been a lightning rod issue for Republicans who incorrectly claim that most asylum seekers ignore the notices and instead try to live in the shadows unlawfully. A 2019 study from the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University, which uses Freedom of Information Act requests to track immigration court cases, found that more than 80% of all migrants show up for their court hearings, and that number increases to nearly 100% if the asylum seekers have representation.
But Abbott said Thursday that Texas "will not aid a program that makes our country a magnet for illegal immigration."
So Abbott refuses aid and the illegal immigrants have a lower positivity rate than the rest of the state?
It gets easier to overlook when it really isn't a problem, certainly not one Abbott is interested in solving.
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It's easy to try to deflect all of this on governor Abbott since he's an easy Republican Target however the problem is much larger than Abbott and even much larger than Texas which is pretty large. I find it somewhat disingenuous to lay any blame for this Brewing border crisis on any governor. This is all the new Democratic Administrations deal and they're going to have to answer for it. I'm not going to buy deflection anymore the Democrats need to own it and Biden needs to own it.Originally Posted by Kevin
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I don't think of it as deflection. Biden's got a problem but he has offered assistance to begin solving that problem and has been rebuffed. At that moment, Abbott got his hands dirty.
Refusal to cooperate in solving the problem shows me that Abbott sees an election issue and solving it is not in his interest.
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Nothing, but you've changed the subject from release of COVID positive illegal immigrants.
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Sounds good to me, but I'm not sure what you are talking about when you mention providing illegal immigrants with government benefits. It is illegal to provide government benefits to adult illegal immigrants.
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And it is illegal to be in the country illegally .. What does that change?
We need a path to immigration, not an open border.
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And our non-political member has a solution! Folks should listen up!
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As I've discussed before, I support immigration to the USA. My paternal Grandmother was from Mexico (Chihuahua) and three of my Nephews brought Mexican wives to the U.S. It was not an easy or frugal process - it took years and cost them thousands of dollars.
Having said the above, I think the process needs organizing and focus. To do that takes oversight and money - which are currently lacking.
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Is it illegal to provide them Healthcare?
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It means that the argument that we are paying out money to adult illegal immigrants is not factually correct, so to me, it isn't a problem to solve.
I don't know why allowing more immigration is equated with an open border. I'm all for orderly immigration through specified checkpoints but i believe the vast majority of people trying to get in are just like every other wave we've had and absorbed. I haven't seen any indication they are different.
Orderly entrance through checkpoints, keep out the criminals and terrorists, but I bet that means letting 90% of them in. That's not open borders. That's what we've done here for centuries.
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That does not appear to be the case right now.....
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True, but we are talking about what we'd like to see as well as what the situation is presently.
My main issue with the nature of the discussion is that a false dichotomy is being presented. Either we have open borders where everyone just walks in or we have closed borders where no one is allowed in. There are plenty of other options than these two.
As for the subject itself, I'm in favor of a border policy that lets in the maximum number of people consistent with our ability to ensure we aren't letting in terrorists or criminals. Make the border secure from people sneaking in but also have a much more welcoming stance for those who just want a better life. In the long run, given our declining fertility rate, it is what is going to us prosperous into the future.
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