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    The reclaiming of the Republican party

    I am glad to have company:

    WASHINGTON — Last month, Greg Schott, a lifelong Republican disgusted by President Trump, decided it was time to speak out in a meaningful way.

    Mr. Schott, who sold his business software company to Salesforce in 2018 for a reported $6.5 billion, decided to spend $1 million of his own money to start a new group, Reclaim Our Party, a super PAC targeting right-leaning independents and soft Republicans and telling them it was OK to vote against Mr. Trump.

    Mr. Schott is entering an increasingly crowded space.

    The two biggest groups that dominate the anti-Trump Republican landscape, the Lincoln Project and Republican Voters Against Trump, have both become multimillion-dollar operations that conduct their own sophisticated data research and polling.

    Then there’s the Bravery Project, led by Joe Walsh, a former Republican congressman from Illinois; Stand Up Republic, which recently introduced a spinoff, Christians Against Trumpism & Political Extremism; the Republican Political Alliance for Integrity and Reform, known as Repair and led by two former top Trump administration officials; and 43 Alumni for Joe Biden, which consists of alumni from President George W. Bush’s administration.
    I don't embrace everything that is put forth by these groups but I whole heartedly embrace the mission to reestablish the Republican party which has for the most part become unrecognizable.

    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    Sixty minutes did a segment on the Lincoln Project last night (10-11-2020).. most interesting collection of principals.. all former heavyweights in republican political machine.. not the group of emotional snivelers that talk radio/tv entertainers portray them to be..

    Are we seeing the beginning of a middle of the road third party ?

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    I believe the culture of the party has become so tainted that a return to the party I once embraced is probably not possible. Changing the culture will be the real challenge. These groups need to unite to form a new party that reflects the values and the morals of the real Republicans.
    The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke

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    Of course establishment Republicans and establishment Democrats want to see Trump gone. Then they can go back to their decades upon decades of graft, theft and other pass times
    "Illegal Immigrant" is not a race....

    ‎"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." ~John Adams

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    If you dare look behind the curtain you will see that trump has simply introduced his own swamp----whose inhabitants spend phenomenal sums at trump properties in order to seed, cultivate and reap favors from trump. The players are everything from nations to low life scum.

    You might like to read the book "How trump turned the Presidency into a business--White House Inc."
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    It's not just Trump. Most of the Washington crowd was already corrupt before he was even elected. I mean both parties. They need to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    It's not just Trump. Most of the Washington crowd was already corrupt before he was even elected. I mean both parties. They need to go.
    I don't argue that either, my point about trump was simply that he added to the swamp he had claimed he would drain.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    As long as you have geriatric cronies running the Congress nothing will ever get done up there. If we are going to go extreme i.e. court packing, then let's do a complete overhaul and put in Congressional term limits, maximum age to be able to run for President and to serve on the Federal Courts. That would drain the swamp by operation of law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    As long as you have geriatric cronies running the Congress nothing will ever get done up there. If we are going to go extreme i.e. court packing, then let's do a complete overhaul and put in Congressional term limits, maximum age to be able to run for President and to serve on the Federal Courts. That would drain the swamp by operation of law.
    And it all goes back to your first sentence. It is not going to happen because they are not about to derail their gravy train. That's why we need a viable new party with electable candidates to start shaking things up.
    The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke

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    ...............
    “You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution


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    Not all, I have a good one who has just announced that when he finishes his second term in the Senate he is done with politics.

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    The Parties shape the candidates, but ultimately candidates are who we choose. Rarely does one match the party platform perfectly.

    I don't get too wrapped around the axle over the big Party. I don't think if I did it would help.
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    Said another way — you fight the war with the army or candidate you’ve got.

    My idea of this war is individual liberty versus collectivism, and there is a clear choice now.
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    “You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution


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    It's too late to build a new army for this election cycle, but it most certainly needs to be done in time for the next.
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    This from one of our Republican Senators:

    Senator Ben Sasse, Republican of Nebraska, castigated President Trump in a telephone town hall with constituents on Wednesday, accusing the president of bungling the response to the coronavirus pandemic, cozying up to dictators and white supremacists, and offending voters so broadly that he might cause a “Republican blood bath” in the Senate.

    In a dire, nine-minute indictment of Mr. Trump’s foreign policy and what Mr. Sasse called his “deficient” values, the senator said the president had mistreated women and alienated important allies around the globe, been a profligate spender, ignored human rights and treated the pandemic like a “P.R. crisis.” He predicted that a loss by Mr. Trump on Election Day, less than three weeks away, “looks likely,” and said that Republicans would face steep repercussions for having backed him so staunchly over four tumultuous years.

    “The debate is not going to be, ‘Ben Sasse, why were you so mean to Donald Trump?’” Mr. Sasse said, according to audio obtained by The Washington Examiner and authenticated by The New York Times. “It’s going to be, ‘What the heck were any of us thinking, that selling a TV-obsessed, narcissistic individual to the American people was a good idea?’”

    “We are staring down the barrel of a blue tsunami,” he added.
    Darn----seems like a likeable guy
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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