The Stakes

[wacojoe]

For our Never-Trumper(s) —

...should Democrats win the Senate, they will immediately move to eliminate the filibuster – they’ve already admitted as much. This will give the far left the opening it needs to carry out the radical Democratic Party agenda: nationalize health care, massively hike the minimum wage, grant amnesty to illegals, pack the Supreme Court, rewrite election laws, enact a radical social agenda, unleash regulators, and take over the entire economy by way of the farcical “Green New Deal.”

That prospect should horrify any conservative who’s been around long enough to know that you never want to let the left gain power.

So let’s acknowledge every complaint that never-Trumpers have about Trump. Their calculus still doesn’t add up.

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/09/1...in-basic-math/

A Trump presidency is essential to block such Leftist calamities as a new “High Fifteen” with Chief Judge “Spartacus” Booker.

[CactusCurt]

That it even needs explaining disgusts me.

[Honda]

Hatred is a very strong emotion and those that are filled with hatred will not vote for Donald Trump even if they call themselves Republicans and it means ruining our democracy. That's a sad State of Affairs not to mention it's awful damn selfish.

[FredK]

Damn and you forgot statehood for PR and DC. Oh well.

[LawDog]

Basically if Harris wins the Presidency this country as we know it is over with and we will be on a fast trip to Venezuela. My question is, when America fails, who comes to bail US out?

[Honda]

Basically if Harris wins the Presidency this country as we know it is over with and we will be on a fast trip to Venezuela. My question is, when America fails, who comes to bail US out?

China and Russia each take half.

[LawDog]

China and Russia each take half.

Think about it though. America has basically bailed out pretty much the whole world at one point or the other. Who bails us out when we fall? My guess is no one....

[Mike]

My guess is that you are right.

[CactusCurt]

Word from my oldest who is entering the job market as a soon to be mechanical engineer is that the recruiters are shell shocked, as are their companies.

As the covers get pulled back on this, the anger rises. And it isn't because we didn't do enough. And soon there won't be anything left to bailout with.

Somebody better start really paying attention to the masses. This descent into anarchy, if not stopped soon, will lead us to a dog-eat-dog society some of us are physically prepared for but none are prepared mentally for. And there wont be anything left to bailout.

It's almost as bad as the Carter fallout ws when I entered the job market in 1982. That doesn't comfort my sons.

[Truckman]

Biden/Harris/Pelosi are already the best gun sales team in history, and the election is still weeks away...I walked a gun show today just paring down my collection a little more...I sold my S&W 686-3 as soon as I walked in the door...A dealer of all people asked what I wanted for it, and started counting out c-notes without blinking an eye at the price...He was happy, and I was happy...

Last month I went to a little out of town show walking my S&W M37 around, all the dealers liked it, and wanted it, but a guy just walking around met my price and went home with it...On both those guns I quadrupled what I paid for them a few years back...Next year those prices will look cheap...

I had my IMI Timberwolf with me today also...Several people seriously wanted it, but hesitated over my asking price (which will also look cheap next year)...I'll take it to the HGCA show in Houston next weekend, and I don't expect to come home with it......Ben

[UTAH]

Man, there's more doom and gloom going on here than I thought.

America will be fine if, and when, political change does come. We're good at it because our system is built to handle it.

It does surprise me that some members think they'll be forced out of the USA. I think we'll do better if pessimists stay and help all of us help our country. For, I think some levels of doubt can be helpful in applying Democracy.

Hunter

[wacojoe]

There is a considerable group that are intent on tearing down the country and have no record of building anything, Hunter, if that is “change” to you. I guess destruction is change by definition. They are variously identified as “anarchists” and Marxists, but in this case I conclude they are anarchists only long enough to tear down the venerable systems and institutions of our society, and will then reveal their Marxist roots as the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement have done.

Whatever name you want to put on them, they smell the same and you have to have your head in a dark and rank place to miss the message they are broadcasting. I have a video I hope everyone sees in the near future that I think does the best job I have seen explaining this latest threat to our country. I will post access as soon as this weekend’s Mark Levin show on Fox is available. It features an interview with Ben Shapiro as they identify the revolutionaries, their methods and motivations. Maybe some caught the original broadcast. I hope so.

[mgrist]

Man, there's more doom and gloom going on here than I thought.

America will be fine if, and when, political change does come. We're good at it because our system is built to handle it.

It does surprise me that some members think they'll be forced out of the USA. I think we'll do better if pessimists stay and help all of us help our country. For, I think some levels of doubt can be helpful in applying Democracy.

Hunter

I sure hope your right. We're raised from birth that the USA is the supreme power the only good power, ONE country under God. Nothing can happen to us we're American. I used to think "IT" could never happen to me! I don't say "it could never happen to me" anymore. I quit saying it could never happen again. Complacency is what"s going to be the final straw.

[LawDog]

I sure hope your right. We're raised from birth that the USA is the supreme power the only good power, ONE country under God. Nothing can happen to us we're American. I used to think "IT" could never happen to me! I don't say "it could never happen to me" anymore. I quit saying it could never happen again. Complacency is what"s going to be the final straw.

Ronald Reagan always said we are only one generation away from losing our freedoms.

[UTAH]

Oh sure, bring Reagan into it - as if most of us support him (which we do).

Trump is no Reagan, and never will be.

Hunter