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    Can we acknowledge this all stems from a manufactured piece, the Russian Dossier, paid for by the Clinton 2016 campaign?
    If you don't make someone elses life better, what good is yours?

    Weighty decisions are easy to make, when you aren't burdened by all the necessary information

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    Can we acknowledge this all stems from a manufactured piece, the Russian Dossier, paid for by the Clinton 2016 campaign?
    I don't believe that is the case. From what I have read there is a wealth of information regarding the Russian interference far beyond anything in that "document".

    Why are you suggesting this comes from a sole source?
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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    If we aren’t careful, the evil Rooskies might try to buy another $75,000 worth of ads on Facebook directed to New York voters again. Think how terrible that would be?
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    I find it a bit humorous that the the ultra right can go into an endless rage over such things as mail in ballots---with no proof of the fraud they scream and cry about----and then--- turn around and ignore the proven interference in our elections process from the Russians----amazing I tell you.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    And youse guys are still looking for the first vote you can show that the spooky Russian hoards have turned or changed.
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    Oh, you can do better than that.

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    Yes, I can. Yesterday the co-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Lindsey Graham, went on the Maria Bartiromo Show on Fox Business and showed previously secret FBI/DOJ documents proving the double standard of the Comey operations differing between their investigations of Clinton versus Trump. Graham went on to explain (watch on the video below, if you dare) that Hillary announced her run for the presidency in the middle of April 2015, but prior to that date in March of the year the FBI came into information that “a foreign country” was trying to laundry money (illegal) into her campaign through one of Clinton’s campaign aides who had a relationship with the country. The FBI investigators wanted to investigate by obtaining FISA search warrants, but were specifically stopped and told by superiors to first warn Hillary of the efforts, which they did.

    Contrast that action with next year in 2016 when Comey and the FBI opened four different investigations of Trump people, which ultimately led to the debacles of the Mueller torturous investigations resulting in giant nothing burgers, yet no similar warnings to Trump were ever issued so that he could deal with them preemptively as Hillary was invited to do.

    Watch it yourself —

    https://youtu.be/9OGgyYSOkGg

    What have your usual sources reported on this bombshell, Dave?

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    And btw, if you and your friends cannot show one single vote changed by Russian interference, then all this hullabaloo is meaningless...it is just Russians being Russians in the same way they have for decades mucking around in our business and will dot his year as the Chi-Com’s are also doing.
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    That is lame Joe, just who do you think is going to stand up and say the Russians made me do it.
    Go back four years and see how many of the stolen documents were discussed right here and used to support voting for trump.

    Did it change your vote no, did it give you material to support your position, with out question.

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    If whomever passed those emails to Wikileaks had told lies, you might have a good case, but they weren’t lies and there are no Trump fingerprints on them despite the most exhaustive investigation in the history of investigations. Suspicion would point to the Russians, but the case(s) put forth by the DOJ of them being the culprits stink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    I don't believe that is the case. From what I have read there is a wealth of information regarding the Russian interference far beyond anything in that "document".

    Why are you suggesting this comes from a sole source?
    Perhaps words confuse you. Ill make it simple, a stem is part of a tree. Many consider a main part of the tree. There are a lot of things like branches and leaves, along with roots that extend from the stem. I will stand by my statement.
    If you don't make someone elses life better, what good is yours?

    Weighty decisions are easy to make, when you aren't burdened by all the necessary information

    The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of communism is the sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill

    If you think the United States is bad, think of another country that wants to put troops on the border to keep illegal aliens out, instead of walling in their citizenry

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    I won't carry either sides water, and I'm surprised the lengths some of you will go to in your rationalizations. These people are destroying us. Soon the press conferences will sound like a John Steinbeck novel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    Perhaps words confuse you. Ill make it simple, a stem is part of a tree. Many consider a main part of the tree. There are a lot of things like branches and leaves, along with roots that extend from the stem. I will stand by my statement.
    Excuse me---I'll be careful not to ask you any more questions. I am deeply sorry for troubling you. Have a wonderful day.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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