'Like Adding Gasoline': Oregon Officials Blast Trump Response To Portland Protests

[Dave Grubb]

Oregon officials are lashing out at President Trump for sending federal agents into Portland amid the ongoing protests against police brutality and racism. Both the governor and Portland's mayor told NPR the administration's actions are nothing more than political theater meant to appeal to Trump's political base in an effort to win reelection.

"As best as I can tell, this is an effort — a last gasp effort — by a failed president with sagging polling data, who's trying to look strong for his base," Mayor Ted Wheeler told NPR's Lulu Garcia-Navarro on Sunday. "He's actually using the federal police function in support of his candidacy."

For more than 50 nights, hundreds have gathered in the city's downtown to protest racism and police brutality, following the killing of George Floyd. Last week Oregon Public Broadcasting reported that federal agents wearing camouflage and tactical gear had been pulling some protesters into unmarked vans.

In response, the state of Oregon said it would sue the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and other federal law enforcement agencies. And multiple Democratic members of Congress demanded internal government watchdogs investigate the Trump administration's "use of violent tactics" against peaceful protesters.

This is only a portion of the article---and there are many more like it.

To deny the hypocrisy being demonstrated by trump when comparing the reaction here and the reaction to Hong Kong is unavoidable. Only the cult would deny trump's motive.

I can't help but think that this is more justification to protect the 2nd Amendment.

[CactusCurt]

Nobody in Portland would ever vote for him anyway. In fact, I'm sure local leadership would be perfectly happy to let my Federal buildings burn.

That said, a civil libertarian should be cringing.

[Dave Grubb]

Nobody in Portland would ever vote for him anyway. In fact, I'm sure local leadership would be perfectly happy to let my Federal buildings burn.

That said, a civil libertarian should be cringing.

If they were there doing what was claimed (protecting Federal buildings and statues), there would be far less basis for the local reaction. By all reports, the actions by the Federal "agents", has gone far beyond the stated intentions.

[Phillbo]

The “Trump de Soleil” circus always reminds me of this classic song by Emerson, Lake & Palmer -


“Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
We’re so glad you could attend
Come inside! Come inside!
There behind a glass is a real blade of grass
be careful as you pass.
Move along! Move along!
Come inside, the show’s about to start
guaranteed to blow your head apart
Rest assured you’ll get your money’s worth
The greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth.
You’ve got to see the show, it’s a dynamo.
You’ve got to see the show, it’s rock and roll” (…)

[Honda]

Who cares what that nut case mayor in Oregon thinks........................

[FredK]

Attorney General in Or is suing the Feds. So it's just not one or two against these unmarked "guards".

[Dave Grubb]

If you need more, all you need do is watch the news tonight and see the videos of these out of control thugs beating on citizens with batons, we are moving toward a police state.

[FredK]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=284107059596777

[Dave Grubb]

This should alarm everyone of us

Meeting with reporters in the Oval Office yesterday, Trump said that he planned to deploy federal law enforcement agents to Chicago, after already having done so in Portland, Ore., last week. He suggested he might also do so in New York, Philadelphia, Detroit, Baltimore and Oakland. He was vague about the reasons, saying all of the cities were run by “radical left” Democrats.

[wacojoe]

Have you people lost your minds? The thugs are the mobs dressed in Antifa black launching thousands of felony projectiles and explosives (every frozen water bottle, rock and firework they throw at LOE’s is a felony!) at both law officers and public buildings. This was going on for weeks before the Feds sent in the guards, and surely even your sources have seen these revolutionaries pounding on the walls of the Federal Courthouse with sledgehammers and anything else they can summon. When the guards came out to chase them away in one incident caught on video one creep beat the guard “repeatedly” with his hammer after which the evil guards arrested the perp and were then attacked for making the arrest. Three guards have lost eyesight, when attacked by powerful laser beams. The Feds not only have the right and legal authority to guard their buildings and personnel, but their are laws requiring that they do so.

What is your solution and that of the complaint D’rat pols — for the Feds to withdraw so the Commies can burn down the federal buildings as they have tried to do every damned night! That is insane. What do you need to prove to you the unvarnished malign intentions of these mobs toward the American way of life? They have told you what they demand. Believe what they say. Revolution! Tear out every vestige of the evil American system of governance stem to stern. No one on this board buys a second of that crap, so why are you willing to give these perps succor and solace?

I can’t believe any of my friends here are so bent they actually are defending these mobs as they attempt to set up their Ochlocracy with the fellow-travelers of D’rat mayors and governors under their beck & call. This is not just in Portland, but also in numerous other Democrat run cities. The curious (and instructive) episodes of the mob turning on the very feckless pols who have been championing their cause is about the only cause for amusement, but I predict these episodes of rank lawlessness on the part of the mob will sway the election in favor of President Trump.

[Honda]

Have you people lost your minds? The thugs are the mobs dressed in Antifa black launching thousands of felony projectiles and explosives (every frozen water bottle, rock and firework they throw at LOE’s is a felony!) at both law officers and public buildings. This was going on for weeks before the Feds sent in the guards, and surely even your sources have seen these revolutionaries pounding on the walls of the Federal Courthouse with sledgehammers and anything else they can summon. When the guards came out to chase them away in one incident caught on video one creep beat the guard “repeatedly” with his hammer after which the evil guards arrested the perp and were then attacked for making the arrest. Three guards have lost eyesight, when attacked by powerful laser beams. The Feds not only have the right and legal authority to guard their buildings and personnel, but their are laws requiring that they do so.

What is your solution and that of the complaint D’rat pols — for the Feds to withdraw so the Commies can burn down the federal buildings as they have tried to do every damned night! That is insane. What do you need to prove to you the unvarnished malign intentions of these mobs toward the American way of life? They have told you what they demand. Believe what they say. Revolution! Tear out every vestige of the evil American system of governance stem to stern. No one on this board buys a second of that crap, so why are you willing to give these perps succor and solace?

I can’t believe any of my friends here are so bent they actually are defending these mobs as they attempt to set up their Ochlocracy with the fellow-travelers of D’rat mayors and governors under their beck & call. This is not just in Portland, but also in numerous other Democrat run cities. The curious (and instructive) episodes of the mob turning on the very feckless pols who have been championing their cause is about the only cause for amusement, but I predict these episodes of rank lawlessness on the part of the mob will sway the election in favor of President Trump.

They suffer from major cases of TDS. There's no question about that

[CactusCurt]

I'm not sure that fits everyone. While I enthusiastically support defending MY Federal assets, I'm still not comfortable with the tactics. If they aren't careful, someone's going to get hurt.

I have consistently opposed the expansion of the military police state, whether it was their massive arms purchases or the hardening "defense" of Federal lands. The Federal government is our largest neighbor around here, and the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Federal LEO's are FAR more common around here that the local guys. Im not sure what they do, but it isn't community outreach. I like my local law enforcement, because I have a say in who it is.

As for Portland, I would support us pulling out and letting them have a federal free zone if they want it. We all support (at least the libertarians) control at the most local level, and if you can keep Walmart out, why not a federal courthouse or prison? Let them burn the place if anarchy is what they want.

And what does this have to do with TDS? I believe you may be starting to show symptoms

[Dave Grubb]

A deeper look at the demographics of the demonstrators shows a much broader cross section of people (who are overwhelmingly white) than would support the antifa model. That model might be convenient but it isn't accurate.

[wacojoe]

A deeper look at the demographics of the demonstrators shows a much broader cross section of people (who are overwhelmingly white) than would support the antifa model. That model might be convenient but it isn't accurate.

Antifa is a very much a white bunch of Marxists posing as anarchists, and they are but one prominent group of this coalition of militant revolutionaries.

“Let them burn the place if anarchy is what they want.“ Craziness. Curt, do you really think feeding them federal buildings will placate rather than encourage them? There is a function for authority and control of the mob...this is it in spades. If you believe in adhering to democratic built law as what distinguishes as a society, as I do, then suppressing violent mobs, which respect no law, is paramount. You cannot suppress mobs already far gone into mayhem, destruction and personal injury without displaying and using superior force. Force is the final arbiter, as the mob is trying to assert. The only question at this point is whose force and will is superior.

Btw, as I stated, if you look a bit deeper into the backgrounds and motivations of these people “anarchy“ is not their goal — Marxism is — it is merely their tool to achieve their goal.

By all rational assessments, Marxism/Leninism should have died with the demise of the Soviet Union and its satellites, but it has percolated along under cover sticking its ugly heads up in various guises in Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, North Korea or some other hell-hole submitting proof after proof of its inherent evil like eels on the sea floor. Only in China has it any measure of ostensible success until observation reveals its toxic nature there too as it callously and consciously seeded its domestic virus on the world in order to maintain a competitive edge.

The international Marxist movement having now successfully installed a Pope Francis imbued deeply with its designed to disrupt though Liberation Theology as the spearhead into the Roman Catholic Church, and then moving on to its most cherished goal of inculcating Marxism into the golden prize of the United States through use of the Black Lives Matter Trojan Horse and these other movements it has created. First, tear down and destroy feigning anarchy using racial divisions, then rebuild in glorious collectivist equanimity the shining hill of Socialist dreams. It is the Cloward-Piven Strategy shorn of the nicety of waiting for capitalism to collapse under gentle pushes and its own weight by going straight to force of the mob.

The strategy has a decent shot using as warriors disaffected blacks and youth it has assiduously cultivated by its long-standing ploy of commanding the schools and academia teaching Marxism. Do you really think that once we give them a few buildings these command & control freaks will be satisfied enough to overlook your little redoubt in the mountains and leave you and yours alone? They have plans for everyone. You will be assimilated or crushed.

[CactusCurt]

I believe we should pull federal services from places where they aren't wanted. I would prefer the malcontents were congregated and isolated in some foreign land like Portland - remember when we used to say that about muslims over there?

Once they were all in their happy place, they could devolve as much as they wanted. What better way to demonstrate to the morons I walk the Earth with, that anarchy or Marxism or whatever you want to call it, has consequences? I don't think you will lecture this one away.

We might be talking about two different but similar things. I am talking about the role of the Feds in local affairs. You can still have law and order without it being "provided" to you by federal officers from God knows where.

As I mentioned, i am literally surrounded by federal jurisdiction. While their minions are generally a nice bunch of kids trying to save the world, their policies make them a bad neighbor in some respects. As for the end, I suspect I will be crushed.