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  1. 06-26-2020, 03:42 PM #1
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    I don't get it.

    I almost excuse trump's disregard for his appropriate role in "managing" the pandemic---why would I expect anything else? His public ignoring of any societal responsibility obviously is far beyond his capacity to grasp.

    I get that---trump is trump---what I don't get is the seemingly twisted "logic" of the trump cult in refusing to wear a mask in public---how is it these people are too thick to understand they have no right to endanger my rights---and everyone else's rights. Has their world come down to such a small speck that the simple act of wearing a mask, out of respect for your neighbor, takes on this level of importance?

    They need to grow up. I am normally very tolerant---but this is flat ignorant.
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    You'd think, if for no other reason, they would wear a mask to protect their self-centered selves!
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    I can't imagine there is any thought process at all.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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    The largest county in Alabama just imposed an order to wear a mask EVERYWHERE. Two exceptions are if you are outside and not within 6 feet of anyone and children under 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    The largest county in Alabama just imposed an order to wear a mask EVERYWHERE. Two exceptions are if you are outside and not within 6 feet of anyone and children under 2.
    The county to the south of mine which encompasses Houston did the same thing...I only wear one where the business I'm visiting demands it, such as one of my doctors...I went to the bank, grocery store, laundry and western wear store today with no mask...If I was sick or felt symptomatic, I would wear one out of concern for others...Otherwise I don't bother with it...If I'm not sick from contact with all the precious metal I encounter, why should I worry?......Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckman View Post
    I went to the bank, grocery store, laundry and western wear store today with no mask...
    Can't get away with that around here. They are mandated in public places. They are closing down a lot of the Scottsdale night life hot spots because they refuse to follow CDC guidelines and there liquor licenses will be revoked if they commit one more violation. I think it's a good idea. The kids that socialize in them do not care. they spread it and take it home to their families. The average age of new cases is dropping quickly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckman View Post
    If I'm not sick from contact with all the precious metal I encounter, why should I worry?......Ben
    If not for yourself Ben, then please give thought to those who would care for you if you do become infected. Anyone who gets this puts the caregivers at greater risk.

    From this morning's WSJ:

    Coronavirus cases surged in the U.S., setting a new daily high for the second straight day, as some states and cities that had reopened introduced new restrictions.

    The U.S. recorded more than 45,000 cases Friday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The tally was significantly higher than the 39,972 cases reported Thursday, a record at the time. The previous high of 36,291 daily cases was recorded in late April.

    Florida, Texas, California and Arizona have accounted for much of the recent surge in cases, prompting authorities to impose some new restrictions in those states.

    Texas and Florida, which had been among the last states to shut down and among the earliest to reopen, took steps to keep people at home. Florida imposed new restrictions on bars, and Texas Gov. Greg Abbott closed down bars across the state as Houston issued a stay-at-home order.
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    Well to be fair there's been too many "studies that show it's effective or not. The non believers think this will not hurt them or those that do wear them can't make up their mind for themselves.

    While I can see both arguments I would think wearing is more important.
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    No masks on the golf course. On anyone. They even relaxed the rules so 2 people can be in the same cart.

    I wear mine in the grocery store, and the feed store if there a lot of Navajos in there. Just another reminder of my racist nature. The real problem will be the Zonies. Our businesses depend on their summer vacations. It's good and bad news there are lots of them this year.

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    I assumed you are talking about the protestors/rioters, but then I realized that (a) they were protesting against Trump in part, and (b) there is zero statistical showing that their lax distancing and masking produced no discernible rise in infections, so I’m still left wondering about the perceived connection between the “Trump Cult” and unmaskism.

    I am a sturdy member of the Trump Cult and wear a mask despite the recommendation of the World Health Organization, or maybe because whatever they say is most likely wrong, and most everyone I know wears the obnoxious things too even though they are Trump supporters also for the most part. I question the premise that Trump supporters defy calls to wear masks. Maybe Pennsylvania is different from my experience.
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    I just watched the briefing from today.
    Pence has really picked up the pace, before long he will lie as much as his boss.

    This is a disgrace.
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    It has nothing to do with being guided by freaks Joe, it has everything to do with being sensible and consideret of others.
    If I had any inkling of following a freak I'd go get a red cap and become one of trump's cult.
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