...charges against the other three cops in the murder of George Floyd and best of all, an increase in charges against his murder, Chauvin to 2nd degree murder.
...charges against the other three cops in the murder of George Floyd and best of all, an increase in charges against his murder, Chauvin to 2nd degree murder.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
Every juror on that case(s) will have a personal stake in the game and surely have in his/her mind that a verdict contrary to mob wishes threatens them personally, their family, their home and community. The proof is all around them.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
Not good enough. He should be charged with capital murder.
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
I don't know about the law where he was murdered, but there is no such thing as "premeditated" in Texas. All you have to do is commit murder during the commission of another felony and you qualify for capital murder. He meets that standard. I don't think he would be convicted but it is a good start for a plea bargain. Start high and work your way down until something sticks.
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
When I, without any warning of what was to come, saw the video of this "arrest" of Mr. Floyd I was enraged. Here was a cop with his knee moving back and forth on the neck of a man who was obviously cuffed with his hands behind him. As he moved his knee he continued to grind the man's face into the pavement---and he did that with his hands in his pockets and a look on his face as he might have while drinking a cup of coffee. I was screaming at the TV---my wife came to find out what was wrong---I could not believe what I was seeing. All the while, his partners walked around without any effort to stop it.
I feel compassion for all the good cops, for them to have to witness that would have been excruciating. May we finally learn from this and never see it repeated in our country again.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
Please allow that there is a fundamental difference between the demonstrations and demonstrators and the looting and looters.
I have to add---and this will likely invite another attack---but so be it, the looting is symptomatic of a root cause that goes far deeper than bad manners and to a big degree isn't even racial---they destroy with no concern for race or any other identity.
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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
The looting is a crime of opportunity...
Those of us who have spent even a little bit of time in law enforcement (or in my case both as a prosecutor & defense atty) know from personal experience that there is a much larger reservoir of criminal element in society than ordinary people in their everyday walks of life have any concept. They are waiting under their rocks for the chance to scurry out and grab something. This crime by a cop flipped over the rock.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
Thank you----but I'm sad to say that while trying to say that two nights nights ago I was attacked right here
To Bo's statement---I think it goes beyond that. These looters are without respect for anyone or anything. I watched one break the windshield out of a police car the other night. He was a professional at doing that---obviously, that was not his first windshield. If I'm right about the respect, for many of them it is easy to see why they have no respect for others--they have none for themselves. These are the same ones who are shooting their brothers and sisters every night in our cities. If we want to stop these actions (again not the demonstrating) then we need to identify the root cause and do something to fix it. Until there is fundamental change, this will not end.
....and please, don't anyone come back and accuse me of white guilt.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
What is passing these days for a respectable protest organization, Black Lives Matters, has as a primary focus now of “Defund The Police” all across the nation. It’s going to be pretty hard to investigate criminals without any police and I suspect that is the point. Increasingly, insanity like this is being offered as worthy of adult consideration and the usual suspects are seriously discussing it. I even heard the rich black guy who heads the BET channel, Robert L. Johnson, tell the world this won’t stop until “we” give $14T in black reparations, which would presumably include nearly all the looters we see every night on TV...and himself. No word on the breakdown of who gets it and who pays, but specifics are superfluous to nonsense, right? That’s 2/3 of last year’s entire national product - much more of this year’s -, sports fans, and he is not alone, as nearly every one of this cycle’s crop of Democrat presidential candidates joined in that demand after a pilgrimage to kiss the hand of Al Sharpton. In the dim past Joe Biden flatly rejected reparations in fielty to his Black constituency. It will be interesting to hear him address the subject at his next opportunity.
The concept would be better worded as, “Give us each $350,000 (that’s the sum their accountants derived) and we will stop looting for it. You have our self-appointed spokesman’s word for that.”
Last edited by wacojoe; 06-05-2020 at 12:14 PM.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
3 am? We haven't had that kind of spirit here in years.
"Back after 5 years. I thought you had died.
don"
Splitting my time between the montane and the mesas
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.