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A big drink of black velvet also would help you.
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He asked a question of doctors in attendance not give advice, but that’s enough to set off the usual suspects including our MSM unquestioning member.
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That your take Joe?When Bryan arrived Thursday with a camera-ready presentation, Trump again wasn't at the 3 p.m. ET coronavirus task force meeting, the sources said. But in the minutes before Trump's planned early evening news conference, Bryan quickly explained his findings to the President in the Oval Office.
Moments later, Bryan was standing at the White House podium explaining how sunlight, ultraviolet rays and disinfectants -- such as bleach and alcohol -- could shorten the half-life of coronavirus.
But when Bryan's explanation ended, things went sideways. As his health advisers looked on expressionless, the President started lobbing questions about whether light or disinfectants could be used inside the human body to cure coronavirus.
Trump and the White House spent the next 24 hours trying to rationalize the comments while health departments reminded Americans that ingesting bleach is lethal. At Friday's briefing -- at 22 minutes, the shortest since Pence got involved with the task force -- the President walked off without taking any questions.
The episode, coming as the White House coronavirus task force attempts to turn the page on a generation-defining pandemic, was viewed as an avoidable disaster inside the administration, officials said. Aides said they were foiled by a leader with a penchant for thinking out loud and following his own instincts over those with expertise or specialized training.
Explanations for the episode varied. The White House press secretary insisted in a statement Friday that Trump was being taken out of context by the media. The President himself claimed disingenuously that he was being sarcastic. The White House coronavirus response coordinator, Dr. Deborah Birx, said Trump was merely talking through new information out loud.
"I think he just saw the info at the time, immediately before the press conference, and he was still digesting the info," she said in an interview on Fox News.
Whatever the explanation, the comments threw the White House's attempts at wartime messaging off-kilter. Widely mocked and hastily rebutted by health experts, Trump's musings about the potential treatments prompted exactly the type of negative headline to which he's become highly attuned as he weathers the biggest crisis of his presidency.
People close to the President who speak with him often describe a leader who has become more sensitive to criticism in the last several months as his reelection nears, the economy craters and his handling of the coronavirus outbreak draws scrutiny.
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Fred
"Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've
stayed alive."
'Take care of yourself, and each other.'
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Somehow, your sources and cartoonists conjured Trump asking questions into giving advice. Where, in your quotes above, does the President give advice to inject disinfectants or UV light? I’ve seen the actual clip, but haven’t the inclination to search it down. Have you seen it?
Btw, a company actually has announced a pending process to attach a UV emitting device to an intibation tube to be inserted down a patient’s wind pipe to theoretically do exactly as Trump questioned. i suspect he had been told that.
Your thread asks the question: “Let’s see if I got this right?” No, you got it absolutely wrong...no advice...and if you keep watching CNN you will keep getting it wrong.
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But when Bryan's explanation ended, things went sideways. As his health advisers looked on expressionless, the President started lobbing questions about whether light or disinfectants could be used inside the human body to cure coronavirus.
Yo Fred,What part of that statement do you not understand ?. Questions are not advice.
P.S. Hope you and yours are well during this terrible time.
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Fake news.
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
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Fred will undoubtedly applaud this...a NYTs’ hack has complained to YouTube that people were viewing a video posted by Cedars-Sinai Research showing their experiments on injected UV light in humans. YouTube, being the Leftist politically correct, Alphabet/Google-owned creeps they are, dutifully censored out the video because President Trump had merely mentioned the possibility of such, and we can’t be having any confirmation of validity of his suggestion for all to see, now could we?
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._her_face.html
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Having more than a passing experience with UV radiation I'd like to know how one would inject it into anything. I also suggest that any claim to try to shore up trump's ignorance on this subject is purely political and not akin to science in any way.Originally Posted by wacojoe
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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One company, as I mentioned before, is planning on placing LED UV lights on an intubation tube that goes down the trachea deep into the lung area. I do not know what the Cedars-Sinai research wing was doing because I did not watch their video before they nixed it, but I think I’m safe saying those guys have a better chance of doing medical research in a viable direction than the NYT or YouTube does in judging it. No YouTube viewer will get the chance to judge on their own now because a Times writer and YouTube management do not think them capable of deciding about it for themselves...liberal arrogance on display once again. It does not seem far fetched to conceive, as Trump mentioned, that powerful UV on the skin might penetrate deeply enough to disrupt a virus reproduction capacity. Now ingesting or injecting disinfectants is another matter.
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Any application of UV that can penetrate the skin and kill pathogens would burn the tissue horribly
I have used UV to cure coatings in very short periods of time and to kill any bacteria in both potable water supplies and sewage treatment plants effluent. In all cases, shielding to prevent exposure to operators is a major concern.
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https://gellerreport.com/2020/04/tru...ing-used.html/
Looks like I was wrong again — not only UV light therapy but disinfectant injection therapy has a history of being tried by bonafide researchers with some degree of efficacy.
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This has to be at an intensity far below anything I have (and do) use.
I'll stand down
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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Yeah, those UV beds will kill just about anything. I don't know about the medical research world, but Trump would have been laughed out of just about every sewage treatment plant across this country. I cringe so bad I can't even watch that clip.
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