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    You are going to have to be more specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    Any bets on how long it will take trump to pardon his scum bag buddy after he is sentenced?
    I suspect that is what this round was about - softening up the populace for the next round.
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    Exactly

    I can't help but notice that the same folks who continually ranted about "activists Judges" now fall silent when we have an "activists meddler" . It isn't "what" but "who"---and that is exactly were I get off the train.
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    An ounce of image is worth a pound of performance..

    It’s not only what one does.. it’s how one does it..

    I will overlook a high performing private or corporal blowing snot rockets and farts in public.. but not a Flag Officer irregardless of performance..

    Just my opinion, I could be wrong..

    I’m an old USMC brat.. as a kid a dress uniform was required to go through the gate.. now leaders give press conferences wearing coveralls.. I May be out of date, but.. I think of it as high standards..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    Exactly

    I can't help but notice that the same folks who continually ranted about "activists Judges" now fall silent when we have an "activists meddler" . It isn't "what" but "who"---and that is exactly were I get off the train.
    You were never on the Trump Train, Dave. In fact you never even went to the station, as we all know, but those of us who did feel it shaking a bit when the engineer takes time to pull over and let Blago on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    You were never on the Trump Train, Dave. In fact you never even went to the station, as we all know, but those of us who did feel it shaking a bit when the engineer takes time to pull over and let Blago on.
    If Blagojevic is now on that train, he should be confined to the smoking car between the crude oil tanker and the caboose where all the other obnoxious fume sources are relegated...His fellow confinees might also do well to keep their hands over their watches and wallets if they wish to arrive at their destination with the same possessions they had when they started......Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    Does that mean you are OK with the latest moves of pardons and his posture toward the Department of Justice?
    Nobody is ever ok with the pardons. Obama released a gang of Puerto Rican terrorists or was that Clinton? Clinton pardoned a slew of criminals as did Bush and the rest. I never did hear of them pardoning any innocent people, imagine that. All I've ever heard is a bunch of ill-informed people with an agenda whining.

    Ah yes---life is grand when you call all the shots
    I'll bet, it's tough just being a little peon with a whine isn't it.
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    From the WSJ:

    WASHINGTON— Roger Stone was sentenced to three years and four months in prison on Thursday for lying to Congress and other crimes, after a tumultuous two weeks in which the government trial lawyers withdrew and President Trump repeatedly criticized the handling of the case.

    Mr. Stone, a Republican consultant who has been a political adviser to Mr. Trump for decades, was sentenced to 40 months of incarceration, a $20,000 fine and two years of supervised release by Judge Amy Berman Jackson at a morning hearing in federal court in Washington, D.C. on charges of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering.

    The sentence was far less than the seven to nine years that trial prosecutors had initially recommended under federal guidelines before Attorney General William Barr and other senior officials overruled their original recommendation, suggesting a lighter punishment. Judge Jackson said following the guidelines would result in a sentence that “would be greater than necessary.”

    Judge Jackson acknowledged Mr. Stone’s history of cultivating a public persona as a provocateur and a prankster.

    “The problem is that nothing about this case was a joke. It wasn’t funny. It wasn’t a stunt and it wasn’t a prank. Stone’s conduct displayed flagrant disrespect for the institutions of government as established by the constitution, including Congress and this court,” said Judge Jackson in sentencing Mr. Stone.
    ...and all the while trump was attacking the Justice Department , the Judge, the jury forewoman, and the prosecutors---what a guy
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    Why is lying to a pack of liars an offense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Why is lying to a pack of liars an offense?
    The offensive part is, we're paying them to lie to us...A lot!......Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Why is lying to a pack of liars an offense?
    Exactly, it is a crime to lie to Congress but they can lie to you without committing any offense. A member of Congress is immune from any charge of any type for outright lying. Screwed up system if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    .......... Screwed up system if you ask me.
    Seems to me it is a violation of the First Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckman View Post
    That sounds like my standard reply to someone who insults me: "You know what the best thing about being me is?...I ain't you"......Ben
    I like to reply "your opinion of me is your problem, not mine"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    I like to reply "your opinion of me is your problem, not mine"....
    To quote Billy Rightwing, "a good'ern"......Ben
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    Any claim that civil servants, or elected members of government are somehow "released" from any expectation or obligation to tell the truth is simply wrong. The criteria to turn dishonesty into a crime is telling lies under oath, at which point, if it is material to the topic of the legal matter, becomes perjury. You might want to check in with Bill Clinton on that bogus claim.

    Although trump has a history of telling lies under oath, unless his arrogance exceeds his stupidity, which could be the case, he will never allow himself to testify under oath while in office.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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