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Guess there's a point to Joe idea.
I like this better:I'm sure there will be more info forth coming about the disease.For example, both SARS CoV and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS CoV), a related coronavirus, have bats are their definitive host species and intermediate hosts of palm civets and camels respectively. A similar pattern may be seen for Wuhan CoV.
It has already been determined that the genetic sequence of Wuhan CoV appears to be most closely related to coronaviruses of bats and snakes. Given that the initial infections were linked to fish and animal markets, it is likely that the key host species will be found there.
Fred
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Good info, Joe. Hopefully, this thing won't spiral out of control. I think the CDC is doing what it can.
Hunter
I don't care if it hurts. I want to have control. I want a perfect body. I want a perfect soul. - Creep by Radiohead
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Take it easy Fred---Joe much prefers theories of shady and sinister plots
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Y'all ever read Stephen King's The Stand?
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More “shady plot” stuff —
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...oms_admit.html
Meantime, one of the confirmed cases in the U.S. is a student at Texas A & M, where my grandsons attend. The student traveled there from Wuhan.
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If you are keeping score at home.
Over the past month, a viral outbreak that started in Wuhan, China has spread throughout the world — giving rise to fears of a global crisis.
The virus, dubbed 2019-nCoV, has remained mysterious, in part because China has worked to control the narrative and flow of information. As the media has made sense of the looming pandemic, different outlets have sometimes provided conflicting information, sometimes within the same day.
To make sense of 2019-nCoV’s spread throughout and beyond China, here’s our distilled timeline the deadly, pneumonia-like disease’s spread.
December 27, 2019: Officials in Wuhan, China announce that 27 residents, mostly stallholders at the city’s Huanan Seafood Market, have fallen ill with a mysterious virus.
January 1, 2020: Chinese state media announces that police have investigated eight people for “spreading rumors” about the virus online.
January 3, 2020: After a week of radio silence and accusations of censorship, Wuhan officials say they’ve identified 44 patients infected with the virus. Five suspected cases emerge in Hong Kong. Wuhan officials rule out the possibility that the virus could be influenza, avian influenza, or a long list of common respiratory diseases.
January 5, 2020: The virus has now spread to 59 people in Wuhan and the number of suspected cases in Hong Kong grows to 21. Experts rule out the possibility that the virus is a resurgence of SARS.
January 10, 2020: A man in Wuhan infected by the virus becomes the first known patient to die from the virus.
January 13, 2020: The virus spreads to Thailand, marking the first confirmed case outside of China.
January 16, 2020: The virus spreads to Japan.
January 17, 2020: A second case in Thailand is confirmed. The World Health Organization (WHO) issues a statement saying little is known about the novel virus — but that more international cases are likely. A second Wuhan resident dies.
January 19, 2020: China now has 198 confirmed cases of the virus, 126 in Wuhan. Chinese President Xi Jinping gives his first public address about the outbreak on national TV. Scientists confirm that human-to-human transmission is possible.
January 20, 2020: South Korea’s first case is confirmed, as is Taiwan’s.
January 21, 2020: The virus officially reaches the U.S. with one confirmed case in Washington State. It also appears in Singapore. China has nearly 300 confirmed cases. Six people have died.
January 22, 2020: China suspends all travel out of Wuhan, effectively placing the city under quarantine. There are nearly 600 confirmed cases worldwide: 444 in Wuhan, 26 in Guangdong, 14 in Beijing, and nine in Shanghai, in addition to the cases outside of China. Hundreds more, including what would be the first in Mexico, are suspected. Preliminary research suggests the virus may have originated in snakes, but some experts contest the finding. Seventeen people have died.
January 23, 2020: A case in Chicago is confirmed. China places three more cities under travel lockdown. The WHO decides it’s too early to declare a global public health emergency. An eighteenth patient dies. Beijing cancels its New Year’s festivals to discourage travel and tourism. The virus reaches Vietnam and Macau.
January 24, 2020: China quarantines eight more cities in the Hubei Province, trapping 35 million residents in their cities. As of press time, 2019-nCoV has killed 26 patients, all in China. Throughout America, 63 unconfirmed cases are under investigation. The virus has spread to Nepal and two more cases in Singapore are confirmed. Late on Friday, France confirmed its first two cases — the first appearance of 2019-nCoV in Europe. Including France, 945 cases have been confirmed in 12 countries.
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But I have promises to keep,
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And miles to go before I sleep.
I will let you guys know if California EMS implements the same procedures that we used when SARs hit
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Random videos from Wuhan —
https://www.vidmax.com/video/193401-...-It-Has-Become
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The article below indicates the virus nexus was not the previously suspected Wuhan Seafood Market, but existed in infected individuals before that occurrence. If that is correct, the origins remain unknown at this time.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...ipboard2449459
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Below is an article explaining the efforts and problems surrounding producing an effective & safe vaccine for this disease. Do not look for one before at least 4 months.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...ipboard2449460
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I guess this to be safe I better pay my insurance premium. Leave the heirs if any some dough.
Fred
"Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've
stayed alive."
'Take care of yourself, and each other.'
as promised. this is our first alert status
Colleen Chawla, HCSA Director
Lauri McFadden, EMS Director Karl Sporer, MD, Medical Director Main: (510) 618-2050 Fax: (510) 618-2099
ALAMEDA COUNTY HEALTH CARE SERVICES AGENCY
Emergency Medical Services Agency 1000 San Leandro Blvd, Suite 200 San Leandro, CA 94577
Novel Coronavirus (2019 nCoV) Outbreak January 31, 2020 All EMS patients with respiratory symptoms should wear a mask
Dispatch will be questioning patients for recent (14 days) travel in China
All patients with respiratory symptoms should be questioned about recent (14 days) travel in China
Alameda County Public Health Department is actively monitoring this rapidly evolving situation. The best up-to-date national information can be found at CDC’s 2019-ncov website. For Alameda County specific public health guidance and instructions for reporting, check http://www.acphd.org/ Patients with recent travel history o Persons with fever and lower respiratory symptoms within 14 days of travel from China, OR who were in close contact with a PUI or laboratoryconfirmed case of 2019-nCoV OR Persons with fever or lower respiratory symptoms and close contact with a confirmed case of 2019-nCoV within 14 days of symptoms
A patient with recent travel history should be sent to a health care setting that has an Airborne Infection Isolation Room and by health care providers using personal protective equipment for airborne, contact, eye protection, and standard precautions.
EMS Scenarios Patient with recent travel history and Alameda County Public Health is involved Have the patient wear a mask Use standard, contact, airborne and eye protection o Gloves, gown, and eye protection (goggles or face shield) Providers should use a fit-tested N-95 or P-100 mask Contact your supervisor Minimize the use of aerosolizing generating procedures (nebulized medications) or interventions that heighten the risk of exposure (intubation, suctioning, etc.), but if these procedures are necessary for patient care, a P-100 mask should be worn Transport the patient as directed by Alameda Public Health Properly doff and dispose of PPE Use standard decontamination procedures after the call is completed
Possible Patient with recent travel history and Alameda County Public Health is not involved Same standards as above Contact the EMS Duty Officer via ACRECC Clinical or destination decisions will be made by the EMS On Duty Officer in consultation with Alameda Public Health
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Time for politics to stand down. This is serious business
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How much worse is this disease than many of the flu strains we see from year to year? Most people are unaware that it is not uncommon for a flu to kill 50,000 people in a year in just the U.S. alone. My reading of the death toll of this strain from reports of deaths in China measured against those contracting it is in the sub 5%, most the old and/or infirm.
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