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    Iran Shoots Down Passenger Airliner

    While it has been touched on in a different thread, I believe this tragedy deserves its own thread.

    Shortly after the Iranian missiles were launched at U.S. bases in Iraq, a Ukrainian airliner went down shortly after leaving Tehran. At the time, I conjectured that Iran had shot it down thinking it was an incoming American military plane in response to their missiles. Whether or not that was the case, it now seems that Iran did indeed shoot down the airliner, perhaps by mistake. Whatever happened is a true tragedy for all of those involved.

    CNN Report with video that may show the actual shoot down. There are other sources available. I used this one because it seemed to be the most informative for now.
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    Most all intelligence sources are coming together and stating that yes indeed Iran shot it down accidentally. I'm glad they had that information because Boeing sure didn't need another bad deal. Now I guess it remains to be seen how hard is going to be to get Iran to compensate the victims.
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    Here's one more source...They are seemingly reversing their first stance that neither the US government nor Boeing will be allowed to participate in the investigation...
    The head of the Iranian Investigating Committee of the Ukraine plane crash, Hassan Rezaeifar, said it has invited the United States “as the manufacturer of Boeing to be present” while the committee investigates the crash, according to the country's semi-official Fars News Agency.
    If Iran wants to be counted among major nations, this would be a good opportunity to declare that intention......Ben
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    From some information I received today they don't even have the technology to read the black boxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    I guess it remains to be seen how hard is going to be to get Iran to compensate the victims.
    What's the going rate these days on lives snuffed out needlessly because of an itchy trigger finger......Ben
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    If that happened in the United States I couldn't even Venture a guess hundreds of millions of dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    If that happened in the United States I couldn't even Venture a guess hundreds of millions of dollars.
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    Yeah and usually the ones who get the money wouldn't even have washed your car for you while you were alive. Funny how that crap works huh
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    I can picture it now; all those Iranians and Russians standing around high-fiving each other.
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    Iran releases images of black box from plane crash......Ben
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    CBS News visited the crash site on Friday and found that it had already been scrubbed of virtually all debris.
    Pretty quick work for someone wanting their claims of non-involvement to be believed......Ben
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    The usual suspects are trying to pin this disaster on Trump saying that it was a consequence of Trump’s action when he offed Col. Salomi. I heard some D’rat California rep. make that “had-it-not-been-for” accusation quickly followed by the Canadian Prime Fop who made the same connection. I wonder how far back in this chain of consequences they are willing to go. Are they willing to follow it all the way back to the instant when Obama mocked a seated Trump at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner in 2011, which was the seminal event that steeled Trump to make his very successful run, which had that not occurred would most likely have produced a President Hillary making the calls today. The tracing the chain of precipitating events need go only as far as recognizing the Iranians shot down the plane because they wrongly thought their malign acts would precipitate retaliation from American planes, so they got trigger happy.

    This new theory to blame Trump is “the butterfly effect” gone political.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    I wonder how far back in this chain of consequences they are willing to go.
    The probably won't go any further back that the Puerto Rico earthquakes and the fires in Australia that Trump caused. But...........I could be wrong.
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    If you really want to follow it back and blame someone other than Iran for this aircraft shoot down, go back to 1953 when we decided to overthrow the existing Iranian government to install someone we thought would be more favorable to our way of thinking. Had that never happened, then the aircraft would not have been shot down in our more modern times. That makes it Eisenhower's fault!
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    Our need to blame is immediate. Our memories are short. I had forgotten about that.
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