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    Quote Originally Posted by UTAH View Post
    I think the crew here has worked well while posting on this issue.

    I realize, of course, that many here will not agree with me on this one. But, having said that, I still appreciate the Democracy that's displayed here.

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    I guess my biggest problem with California is that they have self appointed themselves to be the Ombudsman for the rest of the Nation on issues regarding the environment and morality and everything liberal. Frankly I think the rest of the states can fend for themselves pretty well.
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    Sanctimony is never pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    I think the rest of the states can fend for themselves pretty well.
    You may be right on this one, as you are usually right most of the time. I think some of the states that follow California's lead do so to keep up, as the Golden state is a trendsetter. But, one would hope other states try to fit what they see happen in California with ongoing trends in their own state. For, I think they owe it to their citizens that they don't blindly follow another state.

    My current state of Utah does tend to slowly incorporate some of what California does, but is mostly independent based on what the population wants. And, as you are aware, Utah has a traditional and historic mistrust of the Feds (due to past skirmishes with them).

    Look at what Utah is doing with cannabis issues. A majority of Utahns want less controlling marijuana laws. The LDS church, however, does not. So, we are lurching forward in this area - and very likely will follow Nevada's evolution. I hope it goes well, as I want and need to try full-spectrum CBD oil to treat my injuries and pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTAH View Post
    You may be right on this one, as you are usually right most of the time. I think some of the states that follow California's lead do so to keep up, as the Golden state is a trendsetter. But, one would hope other states try to fit what they see happen in California with ongoing trends in their own state. For, I think they owe it to their citizens that they don't blindly follow another state.

    My current state of Utah does tend to slowly incorporate some of what California does, but is mostly independent based on what the population wants. And, as you are aware, Utah has a traditional and historic mistrust of the Feds (due to past skirmishes with them).

    Look at what Utah is doing with cannabis issues. A majority of Utahns want less controlling marijuana laws. The LDS church, however, does not. So, we are lurching forward in this area - and very likely will follow Nevada's evolution. I hope it goes well, as I want and need to try full-spectrum CBD oil to treat my injuries and pain.

    Hunter
    I have a colleague whose daughter is a ballet professor at Univ Of Utah in SLC. She told him that SLC is dealing with the flight from California and it has strongly affected real estate values.
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    Same in Az.. They are flocking here in mass and driving up home prices (artificially).... I have rethinking my plan to live in Scottsdale for another 10 years. I may sell before the next bubble and sail away.

    New 2 story homes are popping up all over the west side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    ...rethinking my plan to live in Scottsdale for another 10 years.
    My sister lives there in Scottsdale. She loves it. The last time I was there I was on a bike coming back from Tombstone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    ...SLC is dealing with the flight from California and it has strongly affected real estate values.
    Yep, we're seeing a creep up, but nothing like Las Vegas has seen. We bought our home for 57K and it's now worth 350K - amazing.

    Hunter
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    ^^^
    Another bubble I missed on the sweet side. The story of my life.
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    My daughter bought a home out in Vegas fresh out of college for $150.000 in the early to 2000's I think it was. At which point I might add she was making $150.000, her husband ran a state-sponsored rec center for $65,000 a year. My son the mortgage broker who thought it best to keep everybody clear of any equity got them $450.000 on their last loan right before their loan went back down to $150.000. in the big crash. They then went and rented a house and have lived there for the last fifteen years. She had quit her job to have triplets and stayed that way the take care of 6 kids as time went along. So their house was repossessed. the money accrued from all the re-financing, that was gone like all the rest, the government gave it back to all the companies to big to fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgrist View Post
    ...the government gave it back to all the companies to big to fail.
    Yeah... I didn't like that either. And, the big brokerages gave huge bonuses to execs yet little to stockholders.

    Trickle down my arse.

    Hunter
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