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This has been a long time coming--and it is a shame---but true.
When you fall from grace with Pete Wells at the NYT your life is going to change.
With the reputation formally earned and widely known it will take time--and so they have a real opportunity to turn this around. If they fail to do that eventually this will catch up to them--and that is always sad to see.
For a better choice I suggest Keens Steakhouse in mid-town.
Joe---come and visit and I'll buy whatever you can eat
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Dude, when this date happens we need an embedded reporter!
BS aside, I don't know what to think of the article. I liked the place because it was always a party when I was there. It reeked of excess in every way. Im not sure I ever saw a sober person there. I don't remember the service being good like it was in some of those fancy french and italian places we went.
"Back after 5 years. I thought you had died.
don"
Splitting my time between the montane and the mesas
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
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Keens looks like a joint worth a trip to NYC and a hit to your wallet. Peter Luger’s not so much! Makes you wonder why the food critic kept coming back for the misery?Originally Posted by Dave Grubb
This has been a long time coming--and it is a shame---but true.
When you fall from grace with Pete Wells at the NYT your life is going to change.
With the reputation formally earned and widely known it will take time--and so they have a real opportunity to turn this around. If they fail to do that eventually this will catch up to them--and that is always sad to see.
For a better choice I suggest Keens Steakhouse in mid-town.
Joe---come and visit and I'll buy whatever you can eat
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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I have always struggled with the hype extended to Peter Luger's, the steaks simply didn't measure up to my expectations. I did not like the way they were cooked and then to cut open a lovely piece of meat immediately after taking it off the grill is sinful to my thinking.
The waiters who played offense are not without company. Another famous restaurant in Boston, Durgin Park, did the same, as do others---some with intent and some in-breedAs an aside, Durgin Park closed this year after 200 years of operation, another sad passing.
And for the drunks---I'm not sure of the density but I have unfortunately seen my share---it seems some clients think that such an invitation is also an authorization to be not only drunk, but obnoxious. I have been asked to leave (and take my "children" with me) in some of the better places in the land. It still remains an embarrassment---on occasion I have considered the possibility of joining in so I could save myself from the embarrassment---but the idea dies almost as quickly as it arises
The almost universal offense of these "children": endless loud vulgarity
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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We run in different circles.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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I try not to make a habit of it---it surely is not "my" circle of choice
My worst period for that was not current, it was in the early 70's and I was on the road. My immediate boss, who was an excellent engineer--and sadly a poor drunk would come to the jobs to "visit". It seemed that most jobs had owners reps who were also drunks (extremely common in road warriors) and would always join us for dinner---and lunch for that matter.
I was never allowed to politely decline---I didn't drink at all at the time and so I was the "safe driver".
Being sober, with a bunch of drunks, who are also "out of town" never has a good outcome. I was always amazed at how funny things seemed to them and I saw no humor at all
Now, when I have to entertain people who I do not know it is always a crap shoot---but a bad night will not be repeated with me.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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You have my condolences. I cannot abide drunks and druggies.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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I agree with you on this.....
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Ok then, first round is on me.
"Back after 5 years. I thought you had died.
don"
Splitting my time between the montane and the mesas
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
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