Schiff’s Whistleblower Named

[wacojoe]

The name everyone in Washington and the MSM have known for weeks has now leaked publicly, so us peons are brought in the loop — Eric Ciaramella. Read about his history and ties here first —

https://www.commdiginews.com/politic...=socialnetwork

Deep swamp creature, naturally. He was allegedly even there assigned by the NSC to be at the side of VP Joe Biden when he extorted Ukraine to pull the prosecutor of his son’s employer.

[Honda]

The name everyone in Washington and the MSM have known for weeks has now leaked publicly, so us peons are brought in the loop — Eric Ciaramella. Read about his history and ties here first —

https://www.commdiginews.com/politic...=socialnetwork

Deep swamp creature, naturally. He was allegedly even there assigned by the NSC to be at the side of VP Joe Biden when he extorted Ukraine to pull the prosecutor of his son’s employer.

Did you expect anything less from the crowd that vowed to impeach him before he was sworn in. NO PRESIDENT could ever stand up to the barrages being fired upon Trump by the Dems and their media allies. Trump will not be the first. Sad day for the country and the Executive Branch will have lost the balance of power. Trump with all his warts, arrogance, big mouthed bully attitude is mere childs play compared to the corrupt Dem controlled deep state and their allies in the media.

[Billy_Rightwing]

Now we can sleep good knowing that, what a bunch of bull roar going on in DC now days.

[Dave Grubb]

I have to assume you have learned this tactic in the legal profession---when unable to counter the testimony of an opposing witness---shame them, slander them, discredit them---no need for truth---just hope to build doubt.

It is a tactic employed by the political extremes on both sides as well, since you find ammunition and kinship in the rabid right fake news sources you always seem to drag them in for support.

Apparently, trump has learned the same tactic---after hanging around lawyers for years he never misses a chance to slander anyone who gets in his way.

You recently did the same "hit job" on Ambassidor Taylor. I dare say, if Ambassador Taylor were to apply for a position in your law firm you would fly his CV at the top of your page---proclaiming his unquestionable character and patriotism. Apparently, a lawyer can have it both ways, hey?

You might want to get to work fabricating more slanderous attacks against an ever increasing spectrum of these despicable and unprincipled people


From the WSJ:

By Vivian Salama
Updated Oct. 29, 2019 4:30 am ET

WASHINGTON—A top official with the National Security Council plans to tell House impeachment investigators that he was concerned by President Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, saying that the president’s request to have the Ukrainians investigate Joe Biden and his son may have been interpreted as a “partisan play.”

Alexander Vindman, an Iraq war veteran who currently oversees Ukraine policy at the NSC, will be the first official with firsthand knowledge of the phone call at the heart of the impeachment inquiry to testify when he appears before House investigators on Tuesday.

According to a statement obtained by The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Vindman also plans to tell investigators that the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, told a Ukrainian delegation in early July that the government in Kyiv needed to deliver specific investigations to secure a meeting with Mr. Trump. The statement says that the July 10 meeting was cut short by then-national security adviser John Bolton, which corroborates with what others have testified to.

Neither the White House nor Mr. Bolton responded to requests for comment Monday.
Trump and Ukraine: A Guide to the Key Players
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“Following this meeting, there was a scheduled debriefing during which Amb. Sondland emphasized the importance that Ukraine deliver the investigations into the 2016 election, the Bidens, and Burisma,” the statement says. “I stated to Amb. Sondland that his statements were inappropriate, that the request to investigate Biden and his son had nothing to do with national security, and that such investigations were not something the NSC was going to get involved in or push.”

You need to get busy on Mr Vindman---beat the rush---get out there early

[wacojoe]

Your arguments cannot get around the undeniable fact that Joe Biden spit in our faces with an open blackmail plot with our money to protect his druggie son selling his name and ultimately feed his company million$ that money. Impeachment of the president whose job it is to clean up such is ludicrous.

[Dave Grubb]

My friend---I need not tell you that our opinions are like something else we all have

BTW Joe, if anyone believes they can bring a case against Biden and/or his son for something they did in 2016, by all means---have at it.

That however, does not change the growing case against trump having crossed the line of both ethics and law by attempting to extort a "service" from the President of Ukraine.

If you object to the use of the word "service", can we agree to use "pay to play"?

[Independent Voter]

Dave, The articles, what to me ,biggest problem with all of the statements being said about the " phone call " [ of which only a small portion has been released ].

The statement ...WASHINGTON—A top official with the National Security Council plans to tell House impeachment investigators that he was concerned by President Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, saying that the president’s request to have the Ukrainians investigate Joe Biden and his son may have been interpreted as a “partisan play.”

Containing the words .... MAY HAVE.... A subjective statement for anyone, non declarative and open to interpretation by any and all .
I believe that even our esteemed lawyer members will agree with me that you cannot convict a person with a " may be " or may have . XXXX MAY HAVE robbed a bank so lets convict him... that ain't gonna fly. Trump walks.

[UTAH]

NO PRESIDENT could ever stand up to the barrages being fired upon Trump...

A president called Obama stood up well to the political shots cast against him. Do you remember Trump hitting Obama on the "birth certificate" issue? If possible, take some time to convince me of efforts to impeach Obama for his actions in office. I don't think you'll find them - Obama was squeaky clean compared to Trump.

Hunter

[Truckman]

If possible, take some time to convince me of efforts to impeach Obama for his actions in office. I don't think you'll find them

That's because there weren't any, at least in my limited memory...That's not to say that there weren't plenty of accusations and publicity concerning possible chargeable offenses against Obama...But is it conceivable that the Republican majority leadership at the time thought it more important to advance the needs of the nation over the need to grandstand against the opposing President?...The efforts brought forth by the current Democrat leadership indicate to me that their importance is placed more heavily on bringing down a President who has brought about considerable improvements for the nation, rather than springboarding from those successes with him to insure lasting effects benefiting the American people......Ben

[mgrist]

That's because there weren't any, at least in my limited memory...That's not to say that there weren't plenty of accusations and publicity concerning possible chargeable offenses against Obama...But is it conceivable that the Republican majority leadership at the time thought it more important to advance the needs of the nation over the need to grandstand against the opposing President?...The efforts brought forth by the current Democrat leadership indicate to me that their importance is placed more heavily on bringing down a President who has brought about considerable improvements for the nation, rather than springboarding from those successes with him to insure lasting effects benefiting the American people......Ben

Thank you Ben, reality in a nut shell!

[Truckman]

Thank you Ben, reality in a nut shell!

I do what I can......Ben

[FredK]

...But is it conceivable that the Republican majority leadership at the time thought it more important to advance the needs of the nation over the need to grandstand against the opposing President?.........Ben

Must have missed the important stuff that they were doing for the "good of the country". Care to give some examples please.

Oh don't forget the we won't vote on a Judge until the next guy's elected.

[Honda]

A president called Obama stood up well to the political shots cast against him. Do you remember Trump hitting Obama on the "birth certificate" issue? If possible, take some time to convince me of efforts to impeach Obama for his actions in office. I don't think you'll find them - Obama was squeaky clean compared to Trump.

Hunter

Your are kidding right? Are you making the assertion that Obama went through anything even close to what Trump is dealing with? You do agree I am sure that the mass media was in love with Obama and treated him with velvet gloves, right? Ute, my gosh they were calling for Trump's impeachment before he was sworn in and it never stopped.

[UTAH]

Are you making the assertion that Obama went through anything even close to what Trump is dealing with?

Yes Look back at the posts regarding Obama while he was president.

Hunter

[Truckman]

Yes Look back at the posts regarding Obama while he was president.

Hunter

I thought we were talking about impeachment inquiries and secret testimonies, not just criticism......Ben