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  1. 10-22-2019, 03:25 PM #1
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    One day more---another destiny

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    William Taylor testifies about deep-seated push for Ukraine quid pro quo
    President Donald Trump’s top envoy to Ukraine told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday of intense efforts by administration officials to secure politically-motivated investigations of Trump’s rivals in exchange for a White House meeting with Ukraine’s president and critical military aid, according to sources in the room for the testimony.

    William Taylor prompted sighs and gasps when he read a lengthy 15-page opening statement, two of the sources said.

    Another person in the room said Taylor’s statement described “how pervasive the efforts were” among Trump's allies to convince Ukrainian officials to launch an investigation targeting former Vice President Joe Biden and another probe centering on a debunked conspiracy theory regarding the 2016 election.

    Taylor also described the extent to which military assistance to Ukraine and a potential White House meeting with Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart were tied to those investigations, the source added.

    “The body language of the people hearing it was ‘holy s---,’ seriously,” Rep. Harley Rouda (D-Calif.), a member of the Oversight Committee, said in reference to Taylor’s opening statement.

    Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.), a senior member of the House Oversight and Reform Committee, characterized the testimony as a “sea change” that “could accelerate” the impeachment inquiry. Another lawmaker, Democratic Rep. Tom Malinowski of New Jersey, said it was “the most thorough accounting we’ve had of the timeline.”

    “I’ll tell you, as a former State Department political appointee, in my experience the difference between career folks and political appointees is the career folks take very good notes,” Malinowski said, hinting that Taylor provided corroboration to back up his recollections.

    Trump, who urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden in a July 25 phone call, has denied the charge that military assistance was used as leverage to bend Zelensky to his will. But the episode is at the heart of Democrats’ deepening impeachment investigation over whether Trump abused his power by leveraging America’s diplomatic and military might to benefit his 2020 re-election campaign.
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    Kind of hard to test “testimony” in secret Star Chambers with no cross-examination or transcripts, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Kind of hard to test “testimony” in secret Star Chambers with no cross-examination or transcripts, eh?
    Denial only works for the blind.

    trump is not and never has been a choir boy. He isn't about to start now.
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    I voted for him because he is not a choir boy. Never forget the core basis of this latest attack is that he was trying to investigate corruption of top Democrats and they think that somehow unfair.

    We’ve watched this week what a choirboy really is with the exposure of Mitt “Pierre Delecto” Romney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    I voted for him because he is not a choir boy. Never forget the core basis of this latest attack is that he was trying to investigate corruption of top Democrats and they think that somehow unfair.
    ..and you---an educated adult bright man---believes what comes out of trumps mouth---amazing.

    trump made the whole Biden thing up---and whether or not he did there is a quid pro quo----despite his endless lies.
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    I believe what he has done and is trying to do. I never “believe” what comes from any pol’s mouth, do you?
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