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    Purely for discussion

    Yesterday I heard a comment on the radio that made me sit back and give thought--so I will pose the same issue here. I'd like to hear your comments.

    We have a long history here of degrading government's ability to provide services in a reasonably cost effective way and in a professional manner. The default seems to be that private based services are always best.

    Now--to the radio comment: This past weekend NYC had more power failures due to overloads. ConEd has come under attack by the political leaders and discussions are taking place regarding either turning the operation of ConEd over to another private firm (they have previously done that on Long Island) or "nationalizing" the utility under the control of the city.

    Now---for the wrinkle---the argument goes that we would not think of providing services such as police, fire protection, water supply et al by any entity other than government---so why not electric?
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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    The term "slippery slope" comes to mind...To do so would invite the inclusion of natural gas transmission given the publicized gas main explosions in recent history...And should public transportation not include taxi service and interstate trucking under the protective umbrella of government?...Internet and other forms of communication have also suffered sporadic breakdowns...Would we the public be better served if they were maintained by a new layer of municipal or national management?...

    I vote "no"......Ben
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    Not really in favor of doing that.

    As for the power companies sometimes I fee that they are never nor will be able to prevent blackout/power outages since most line run over head. Also they may not be able to place power generating stations in developed areas due to rear view thinking instead of forward thinking. Never been to NYC nor have any desire to but in that crowded area seems to me that decades old systems may not be up to the task and where to make room for generating stations may be quite a task.

    Here we have monsoon and winds that can tear down blocks of power lines yet within hours crews are fixing the outages so most serious ones last under a day or less. That and not dealing with snow/freezing weather are just some of the reasons I'm living here. Just my 2 cents
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    I'm for the seep in in private hands. However, there is on thing I have a question about. Every time we have an outage, once the power is back and I check E-Mail, I have a notice from S W E P C O that our power is out and they are working on it.

    Why send a power outage message to someone without power ?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post

    Why send a power outage message to someone without power ?.
    Most people can get email on their smart phone. If my power was out and I wasn't home I would like to know that----I might run home and crank the generator up.

    I have a device at the cottage that monitors power and temperature and calls me (landline with battery back-up) if the temperature drops below the set point or the power goes off. It provides some piece of mind, especially since we are the last ones on the grid---the line stops with us. In reality, we have an excellent power company and they seem to know it before I do---and they react very quickly.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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