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    It seems Mr Big Mouth blew the deal.

    From the NYT:
    The immigration authorities planned to continue making arrests throughout the week. They identified at least 2,000 targets of the operation, but may ultimately arrest far fewer. In most such operations in the past, only 20 to 30 percent of the targets have been apprehended.

    Because agents cannot legally use force to enter the homes of their targets, they rely on the element of surprise to be successful, suggesting that the current, highly publicized operation could yield an even smaller proportion of arrests.
    Back in the 70's I was running a plant (my first one) in Linden NJ--just outside NYC. By far, the majority of the work force were from Columbia and although this was long before E Verify I have to believe most were here illegally.

    They had an underground that was amazingly active--and accurate. If they got wind of ICE activity in the area they didn't show up---it shut the plant down!

    Because of that experience I had watched the current dog and pony show from the WH with "expectations"----and nope---I wasn't disappointed.

    I do not support illegal immigration---but this is almost comical
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    The speaker of the house and third in line to the presidency telling all illegal immigrants to obstruct and resist arrest probably did not help much either except she is not only Ms. Big Mouth she is a diseased partisan who could care less about the crisis as long as her party prevails in 2020. Now I await the next Trump rant....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    Now I await the next Trump rant....
    Man, oh man. That's a daily event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTAH View Post
    Man, oh man. That's a daily event.

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    Yeah I got drawn back into it again after sitting out. Need to rethink that. Same old stuff everyday. I think Trump is doing a decent job and others hate his guts. Not going to change.
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    I think you're right on, Honda.

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    Well, Tom, you are right. I'm one of those who like what he is doing, but not what he is saying.

    Just think what would have happened if FDR had announced D Day a few days in advance. It's a good thing we didn't have Twitter way back then!
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    I think he is going over the edge for even those of us who tolerate his bloviations in order to get his actions. Slamming Paul Ryan and then telling the Four Housewomen of the Apocalypse to get out of the country is beyond stupid. Why on earth would you jump in the middle, when the D’rats are shooting each other, and why attack your own even if he dings you first?

    I think he is starting to believe his own bull****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    I think he is going over the edge for even those of us who tolerate his bloviations in order to get his actions. Slamming Paul Ryan and then telling the Four Housewomen of the Apocalypse to get out of the country is beyond stupid. Why on earth would you jump in the middle, when the D’rats are shooting each other, and why attack your own even if he dings you first?

    I think he is starting to believe his own bull****.
    Well Joe vote for the Democrat in 2020. Trump is going to be the nominee so you don't have but one choice them or the other serious
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    As bad as Trump is with the constant tweets, I cannot in good conscience even think about voting for any of the currently announced Democrats. The slide towards socialism along with open boarders is a BIG no IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    As bad as Trump is with the constant tweets, I cannot in good conscience even think about voting for any of the currently announced Democrats. The slide towards socialism along with open boarders is a BIG no IMO.
    Agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    As bad as Trump is with the constant tweets, I cannot in good conscience even think about voting for any of the currently announced Democrats. The slide towards socialism along with open boarders is a BIG no IMO.
    Ditto!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    I think he is going over the edge for even those of us who tolerate his bloviations in order to get his actions. Slamming Paul Ryan and then telling the Four Housewomen of the Apocalypse to get out of the country is beyond stupid. Why on earth would you jump in the middle, when the D’rats are shooting each other, and why attack your own even if he dings you first?

    I think he is starting to believe his own bull****.


    ....and IV, at this point I am back to a write in
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    President Trump says what lots of people are thinking but most are afraid to say. I don't know where the line is for me, but with this bunch of evil and vacuous twits ne's not over it yet.

    I remember being in a "spirited" argument with Linda and a few others of you years ago about immigration. Back them y'all wanted to throw my azz in jail because I was the guy giving them a job. I went to great lengths to explain what the "I-9" requirements were for employers and how ridiculous it was that employers were having to enforce immigration policy.

    Now ILLEGALS are props on the White House steps and democratic leadership openly encourages criminal behavior. The real question is why I'm not more pissed than I am. And not at the President.

    Recall that we built a section of the current border fence and I have spent more time there than any of these democrat a-holes. I cant even hunt along the border (a wonderful place) any more. This invasion is a big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post


    ....and IV, at this point I am back to a write in
    Don't tell me you actually think that Bo has a chance. Or is it just that you have to vote your conscience ?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    Don't tell me you actually think that Bo has a chance. Or is it just that you have to vote your conscience ?.
    Hey----power to the people

    Back to the primary subject---it seems that some of us can excuse trump's jack ass traits in exchange for making changes that are long past due. I will argue that one need not be the world's biggest jack ass and still do the positive things---it is not a butter or guns deal.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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