Supressor

[wacojoe]

What does "need" have to do with it?...We don't "need" second cars, Rolex watches or backyard trampolines either......Ben

Under that rational that spiffy Claymore Mine I have had my eye on to rid the yard of those pesky raccoons would be hunky-dory.

[CactusCurt]

I've been wondering lately why explosives get lumped with guns for the gun control argument. You have to admit the discussion deteriorates when it gets there. I dont know which side of the argument needs explosives more.

[Truckman]

I've been wondering lately why explosives get lumped with guns for the gun control argument.

Our alphabet-oriented government can take at least part of the blame by letting the BATF become the BATFE with the broadening of their umbrella to cover explosives...Its roots lie in the Bureau of Prohibition, leading to Eliot Ness and his "untouchable" Alcohol Tax Unit, which eventually assumed authority for collecting tobacco taxes...Adding firearms to the mix inevitably led to the bright idea of including explosives...

Next up is the addition of Internet Addicted Diesel Truck Fans since they're trying to control all the traditionally fun things for guys...I fully expect the man-hating Hillary Clinton to be named Director of the new BATFEIADTF......Ben

[CactusCurt]

Our alphabet-oriented government can take at least part of the blame by letting the BATF become the BATFE with the broadening of their umbrella to cover explosives...Its roots lie in the Bureau of Prohibition
..Ben

I get the ATF part but I'm talking about the guy who's only interest in the gun control argument is making sure the gooberment doesn't take away the .270 his grandpa gave him. Someone convinced him to support Joe's right to a Claymore. I suspect the NRA. Seems like an odd hill for the average gun owner to die on is all.

And you do realize discussion boards were invented so we wouldn't have to read the book, right?

[Truckman]

The only person I remember equivocating the right to own a bird gun with having the right to your own fully armed F/A-18 in your driveway was Fulltimer, and he only said it to start an argument...But if the 2A were interpreted to expand John Q. Citizen's right to a pump Remington as being the same as his right to nuclear airburst devices, would the NRA, which supports strict adherence to 2A rights be negligent in their duty if they did not support it fully?...Personally I draw the line at Joe with a Claymore though, the guy is a lawyer after all, and dangerous enough as just a mouthpiece...

The unknown author will be disappointed to know why his sales are so dismal until he can figure out how to get paid by the word on discussion boards......Ben

[Independent Voter]

How long a barrel is required for a, say 80 grain 243 . To reach max velocity ?. And, if such a velocity could be obtained in say 30 inches of projectile travel, could the next 10 -15 inches of barrel length have the afore mentioned holes with the silencer attached over that portion . And if that was done would it actually silence the rifle ?

[Truckman]

How long a barrel is required for a, say 80 grain 243 . To reach max velocity ?. And, if such a velocity could be obtained in say 30 inches of projectile travel, could the next 10 -15 inches of barrel length have the afore mentioned holes with the silencer attached over that portion . And if that was done would it actually silence the rifle ?

A handloading manual could give you the ballistic data on the .243...I'm no manufacturer of such devices, but it's my guess that your proposed suppressor would dampen the decibels to a certain degree...However, the trick in noise suppression in firearms is dampening the effects of the supersonic projectile as it exceeds the so-called sound barrier...This is why the great majority of suppressors are used with subsonic ammunition...IE: .22 LR, 9MM Parabellum or .45 ACP......Ben

[CactusCurt]

How long a barrel is required for a, say 80 grain 243 . To reach max velocity ?. And, if such a velocity could be obtained in say 30 inches of projectile travel, could the next 10 -15 inches of barrel length have the afore mentioned holes with the silencer attached over that portion . And if that was done would it actually silence the rifle ?

Maxmum velocity and the lengths some people will go. Check this thread out:


https://www.longrangehunting.com/thr...-brass.220747/

I consider myself a gun nut. I can barely wrap my head around some of this stuff. And there's a suppressor page there as well.

[Truckman]

Under that rational that spiffy Claymore Mine I have had my eye on to rid the yard of those pesky raccoons would be hunky-dory.

Directional explosives can be useful in eliminating all kinds of pests...Find a way to suppress both the noise and the flash, and you'll make a fortune......Ben