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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Under that rational that spiffy Claymore Mine I have had my eye on to rid the yard of those pesky raccoons would be hunky-dory.
    Directional explosives can be useful in eliminating all kinds of pests...Find a way to suppress both the noise and the flash, and you'll make a fortune......Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckman View Post
    Our alphabet-oriented government can take at least part of the blame by letting the BATF become the BATFE with the broadening of their umbrella to cover explosives...Its roots lie in the Bureau of Prohibition
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    I get the ATF part but I'm talking about the guy who's only interest in the gun control argument is making sure the gooberment doesn't take away the .270 his grandpa gave him. Someone convinced him to support Joe's right to a Claymore. I suspect the NRA. Seems like an odd hill for the average gun owner to die on is all.

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    The only person I remember equivocating the right to own a bird gun with having the right to your own fully armed F/A-18 in your driveway was Fulltimer, and he only said it to start an argument...But if the 2A were interpreted to expand John Q. Citizen's right to a pump Remington as being the same as his right to nuclear airburst devices, would the NRA, which supports strict adherence to 2A rights be negligent in their duty if they did not support it fully?...Personally I draw the line at Joe with a Claymore though, the guy is a lawyer after all, and dangerous enough as just a mouthpiece...

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    How long a barrel is required for a, say 80 grain 243 . To reach max velocity ?. And, if such a velocity could be obtained in say 30 inches of projectile travel, could the next 10 -15 inches of barrel length have the afore mentioned holes with the silencer attached over that portion . And if that was done would it actually silence the rifle ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    How long a barrel is required for a, say 80 grain 243 . To reach max velocity ?. And, if such a velocity could be obtained in say 30 inches of projectile travel, could the next 10 -15 inches of barrel length have the afore mentioned holes with the silencer attached over that portion . And if that was done would it actually silence the rifle ?
    A handloading manual could give you the ballistic data on the .243...I'm no manufacturer of such devices, but it's my guess that your proposed suppressor would dampen the decibels to a certain degree...However, the trick in noise suppression in firearms is dampening the effects of the supersonic projectile as it exceeds the so-called sound barrier...This is why the great majority of suppressors are used with subsonic ammunition...IE: .22 LR, 9MM Parabellum or .45 ACP......Ben
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    Speed of sound at sea level at 70 degrees is 1100ft/sec. Most rifles exceed that easily. A competent whip snapper can get that crack by exceeding the speed of sound, but I was never able to accomplish that singular distinction despite many attempts trying.
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    I have learned much about suppressors on this forum. Kudos to the crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    How long a barrel is required for a, say 80 grain 243 . To reach max velocity ?. And, if such a velocity could be obtained in say 30 inches of projectile travel, could the next 10 -15 inches of barrel length have the afore mentioned holes with the silencer attached over that portion . And if that was done would it actually silence the rifle ?
    Maxmum velocity and the lengths some people will go. Check this thread out:


    https://www.longrangehunting.com/thr...-brass.220747/

    I consider myself a gun nut. I can barely wrap my head around some of this stuff. And there's a suppressor page there as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CactusCurt View Post
    Maxmum velocity and the lengths some people will go.
    In some of my recent research on naval rifles I read of the common practice in years past of making seagoing gun barrels as long as possible thinking that this one factor increased range and accuracy...As scientific study took hold, it was discovered that at some point in each case extra length was detrimental, and actually worked against the desired result...When the guys with the slide rules took over design, efficiency in battle became the watchword at sea, but the beautiful designs on the outside of the barrels disappeared...

    One of my go-to sources on ballistics has always been "Hatcher's Notebook"...Some of his research is approaching 100 years old, and still valid......Ben
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    Well this may be all for naught a bill has been introduced in Congress to outlaw them....................
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    Not gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Not gonna happen.
    If it doesn't, Wayne LaPierre will be happy to take credit...If it does happen, he'll say, "If you had only sent me more money"......Ben
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