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    The closest we get to mountain lions is rumors We do have a lot of bobcats---and based on the noise they make I can only imagine their big cousins!

    I recently saw on one of the "good" channels a video of a mountain lion with two cubs. A brown bear came along, spied the cubs and decided they would make a nice snack-----mamma tore that full grown bear a new one---eventually he decided it wasn't such a good idea
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    I have heard one twice. I could hear that big tom on that rock (150 yds from the deck) coming from almost a mile away. The other was when i was peeing off the deck. One squalled from not to far away and (not to get too bilgish) not only was the stream cut off but it might have run backwards for a second. A sound you know when hear it.

    We were hunting elk not far from a private zoo in Az that had some african lions. You could hear them for MILES. I would love to hear a real lion in the wilds of africa.

    Didnt they put elk in PA somewhere? You anywhere near that?
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    Splitting my time between the montane and the mesas

    The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep.

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    We are on the eastern edge, the center of the elk herd is about 40 miles west of us. We do have an elk hunting season in PA. We have to enter a drawing to get a tag.

    The reintroduction started in 1913 and continued until 1926. The herd is stabilized at about 700 to 800 animals over a range of almost 4000 sq miles.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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    Uummm, elk...tasty.
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    I like elk as well, but of all the things that I have hunted, the most enjoyable to me is moose. In a blind taste test, most people would think they are eating excellent beef.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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    Then i got a side by side and my "door" (its a steel reinforced hole in concrete - permanent) is 6" too short.
    Because the side by side is to tall? Is the area where the door is on a slab?
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    Air compressor... Flat tires going in and full tires going out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgrist View Post
    Because the side by side is to tall? Is the area where the door is on a slab?
    The footings are deep and there are solid 6" concrete walls about 10' tall on that side so picture kind of a low window with a ramp on the inside. Plus i framed the door in back to back 3" angles welded together because i dont like cracked concrete.

    I could do the flat tire thing (how i get it in my utility trailer) but i would have to relenquish my king of lazy throne.
    "Back after 5 years. I thought you had died.

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    Splitting my time between the montane and the mesas

    The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CactusCurt View Post
    i would have to relenquish my king of lazy throne.
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    "Back after 5 years. I thought you had died.

    don"


    Splitting my time between the montane and the mesas

    The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep.

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    Cor-ten, I assume.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by CactusCurt View Post
    The footings are deep and there are solid 6" concrete walls about 10' tall on that side so picture kind of a low window with a ramp on the inside. Plus i framed the door in back to back 3" angles welded together because i dont like cracked concrete.

    I could do the flat tire thing (how i get it in my utility trailer) but i would have to relenquish my king of lazy throne.
    Do you have a seperate header for the door opening or did you just rely on floor joists?
    What I've been getting at: On a house you basically have a 94" give or take opening. You shove a 2x12 header cap it with a 2x4 and your 80" door needs no more framing. I have more than once needed more than 82 1/2 for a prehung door. What I did was cut the header out and make one that ties in with the floor joists which gave me 94 1/2" satisfied code etc... I don't know what you've got but I figured I throw that out there. Building is about the only thing my mind retains anymore. I guess if you do something for 50 years a little ole accident isn't going to take it away, all of it anyway.
    This is your mind on drugs!

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