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    A word of caution

    In the hopes of helping anyone else from having the experience I am going through I am going to share my “adventure”

    I have had Afib (irregular heart beat) for years. As a result, I have been on a blood thinner for years.

    The purpose of the Xarelto is to thin the blood to avoid blood clots from forming on the back side of my heart valves, then breaking free and lodging in my brain. The risk is that it is not easy to reverse, and I run the risk of uncontrolled bleeding. It is like walking around with a bomb in your pocket.
    Well—the bomb in my pocket blew up on Sept. 6th as I was leaving a Water and Sewer Authority meeting about 9 PM.
    I fell, stepping off the sidewalk down to the parking lot. I landed on my butt back on the sidewalk. My lower right leg hit the curb when I went down. My fellow board members helped me up. I knew I was hurt but did not think it serious.
    When I got home, I knew I wasn’t bleeding but not sure of anything else. I wear compression stockings and within minutes of taking them off my right lower leg swelled up to three times normal.
    Quite out of character for me I called 911 (my wife was not home) and ended up in the ER of our local hospital.
    I spent the night in the ER. I called my wife about 7 AM and she left to return home immediately.
    The next thing I kind of remember (I was on some serious pain meds) was my wife arriving and a discussion between two surgeons and my wife and saying they would try to save my leg but not sure that it would be possible. I was unable to even object.
    I woke up that afternoon in ICU---with my leg intact. I was to learn latter that I had lost a liter of blood which had pooled around the muscles in my leg. They also told me that all they had done was to open my leg up---closing it up would come in a second operation when I was stable enough to tolerate it.
    Much of what was to happen over the next week is very foggy to me---I knew I was in trouble but unaware of the seriousness. I had a button in my hand that I could push when the pain got too bad---and I was doing a lot of pushing!
    I had exceptional care---I can’t say enough for the angles that surrounded me! The immediate challenge was to stabilize my blood pressure. To that end, they gave me 4 ½ units of blood. That process, as simple as it might seem was interrupted by my vitals going out of control.
    At one point my nurse called a “rapid response”---within minutes my room filled up with all kinds of doctors nurses and technicians—my wife counted 16!
    They discussed what was going on and made immediate adjustments—even in my fog it was impressive.
    It was during that time that I was given the last rights.
    After 4 days of up and downs they took me back into the OR and preformed the second major surgery. They put ten drains and a catheter in the side of my leg, The incision runs from my ankle bone to just below my knee. The catheter ran the full length deep in my leg. They would periodically flush the catheter with 150 ml of saline solution---which was interesting as it turned my leg into a shower of sorts.
    To move this along---I moved to the step-down unit from ICU where I would remain for the next 10 days. I spent the first two weeks flat on my back. I think it was day 15 when they got me on my feet—for about 30 seconds!
    Fast forward, I left the hospital exactly 4 weeks after entering. By that point I could walk short distances on a walker and began trying to recover from weeks of inactivity.
    I am now home and working hard on PT. Tomorrow I go for a follow up with my surgeon—who is fabulous. At this point I have been told that it will be 2 to 3 months until I can get back to work.
    I am now on warfarin as a blood thinner (easier to reverse) but will have heart surgery in about 45 days to insert a Watchman, which in simple terms is a filter in my heart to catch any blood clots before they can do damage---and then I can stop the warfarin as well.

    So----if you are on a blood thinner---beware! I hope this helps someone avoid the problem I have had.
    Last edited by Dave Grubb; 10-08-2018 at 07:49 PM.
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    Jesus Dave. Don't know what to say except , do what the Drs. tell you to do. I for one would like to have you around here for a lot longer.

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    I knew you hadn't been around, Dave, I had hoped you were just mad at us and not sick......

    It's good to know you're still with us, and on the mend...I was prescribed blood thinners way back when I had a stent installed in my heart...I can't afford the high-dollar ones anymore, but I still take 81mg aspirin every day...So far I'm still alive...

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    You unlucky but damn lucky bastard..I for one am damn glad to still have you around
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    Glad you are doing better, Dave.

    I have had afib for years but no blood thinners. It is controlled with metoprolol and flecainide. Guess I'm lucky.

    Keep getting better, the place isn't the same without you.
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    Wannabe is offline Nov 5, 1946 - Nov 19, 2018
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    Good luck with getting off the blood thinners. From what I see when they put you on blood thinners it's for life. Think you have thin skin now, just brush or bump into something and that ugly purple patch just grows. The bruising is not as bad when I eat a small salad or one of the brasiccas each day. It is a pain in the patootie to go have the blood test done every month. I'm danged sorry your tumble got you in so much trouble. That has to be a sinking feeling when they see fit to administer the Last Rites. Get well and back in the mix again. Being down is no fun.

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    One of my old bosses had a similar tale and everything I gathered from him was that I didn't want to get on blood thinners. He ended up with a bunch of clots in his lungs and last rights. He has since been fighting the Warfarin or Xarelto battle. Each has it's ups and downs, literally, and apparently it's been a constant battle for him on which one he should take
    Hopefully they get your system stabilized with one or the other soon! so that you can get home and back on your feet, slowly!!
    This is your mind on drugs!

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    Sorry to hear about your latest adventure Dave, and I hope things get better for you soon. Maybe it is time for you to slow down just a little bit and take it easy at the cabin for a bit.

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    Glad you are still with us. Follow the drs orders.
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    I’m trying to think of something uplifting to say about this misery such as, “Anything which does not kill me only makes me stronger,” but bromides seem to lose their punch here. Fortunately, you have so much good in your life to keep you moving forward.


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    Time to retire and take it easy.

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    Thanks to all for your good wishes

    I came home last Wednesday, Oct 3. I have been trying to keep up at work via email but this morning I joined my Tuesday morning meetings via conference calls and it was truly uplifting for me---I was again involved and could contribute

    I do think I will keep the MB for the time being Joe

    Back to the original story---I'm not sure I sufficiently explained my instability. All told I lost 1.5 L of blood between the two operations and my blood pressure dropped as low as 50/37 (at least from what I recall).

    Another comment----I haven't a clue how drug addicts do it---what the incentive is reaches far beyond my ability to comprehend. Yes, they mitigated the pain---but in the process they made me down right stupid. My brain didn't work---and I knew it wasn't working. It was like pushing on the throttle of a car and NOTHING----NOTHING at all happens. Recall was gone and I was left with nothing---no sense of anyway out----what a horrible feeling

    BTW---there are pictures if anyone would be so inclined
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    Keep your damned fat leg pictures to yourself, that’s a bridge too far.
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    Wannabe is offline Nov 5, 1946 - Nov 19, 2018
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Keep your damned fat leg pictures to yourself, that’s a bridge too far.
    That reminds me of the Gucci pictures on the other thread. Once you see a picture you cannot unsee it.

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