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  1. 07-19-2018, 08:53 PM #1
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    Russian or anybody else interfering with our elections

    I have an idea to take away all of the grief and stupidity of calling out people for trying to interfere in our elections. Really simple and worked for decades without a hitch.


    Everybody that shows up to vote must be checked against a list of voters that have been registered at the courthouse or divers license office.


    They must show voter picture ID and will be handed a paper ballot with their number on it. When they finish voting they return their ballot to the poll person and go on their merry way.


    Easy peasy, no mess ups and no electronic interference. Wadda ya say?
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  2. 07-20-2018, 07:57 AM #2
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    Obviously you don't get it
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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  3. 07-20-2018, 08:24 AM #3
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    No I do get it, either you want a fool proof system or you don't. Calling out Russia for interfering in an AMerican election ,while ignoring millions of illegals or multi voters and saying they are not, is nothing shy of ignorance at its finest.


    You either want it all or you get nothing.
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    Do you call that "Trump logic"

    You might want to give some consideration to the disinformation campaign waged by the Russians that likely influenced a bunch of lower functioning legal voters to help elect a charlatan. While in this case, we had two buffoons running on the dominate parties tickets those votes could have been better spent.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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  5. 07-20-2018, 09:04 AM #5
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    How about the "lower functioning" legal voters trying to elect a corrupt old witch? How about the DNC trying to "fix" the race in their own party against Bernie Sanders? How about the liberal CNN giving the questions to the debate to Hilliary before the debate, and then that person taking over the head of the DNC after DWS got caught cheating against Bernie?


    You preach about fair and equal elections, yet that does not count? The Russians bought ads, BFD, if a person is not smart enough to do their own checking into what is real and what isnt, then we need to outlaw the entire MSM for using the power of the first to try and sway a whole nation of voters by spewing lies and untruths.



    How about allowing non citizens of America to legally vote because it is wrong to ask to show an ID to verify their identity?



    I will ask you again, do you truly want fair and equal elections?
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    Your continued diversion will get you nowhere---if you can't discuss the issue give up.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
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    Actually the major charge of the Russians influencing our elections stemmed from allegations they tapped into both the DCCC and Podesta computer files and rather than “disinforming lower functioning legal voters,” they were TRUTHFULLY informing those voters with the actually behind-the-scenes manipulations of them. In other words, the Russians are alleged to have unlawfully told the truth.
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    Of course they were---so I guess we owe them a debit of gratitude hey? Ever think about replacing Sarah?
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    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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  9. 07-20-2018, 09:34 AM #9
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    Hard to really call it hacking when Podesta gave them his email password. it would be like me asking you for your telephone number and then calling you. For extra credit do some checking into the Podesta brothers and their Russian connections. Like I have said before, the truth in plain sight is being ignored to come up with total BS ghost stories to get the focus off all of the corruption that the Clinton sand DNC had working with it.



    How much money did the Russians pay to Trump? Can't answer that, well we know Russians gave Hilliary and her foundation about 150 million dollars. It is also a factthat Bill was paid 500 thousand dollars for a little speech he gave in Russia. That is just what we KNOW OF!!


    Why won't the DNC release their computers to the FBI so the hacking can be really checked out? They would not let Comey and his team look at them and he admitted under oath that he was basing his claims on things he was told by the DNC. SO are you basing this whole Russia hacking thing on a fact that can not be verified by LEO's?


    Yeah yeah, I know the intelligence bunch has evidence that Russian, CHina, NKorea and many others try to break into our systems on a daily basis, that is normal, has been for years. We have done it ourselves, we got into the Iranian systems and caused their centrifuges to self destruct. We are hacking into just about every Country's system every day. This is nothing new, it just got brought up because a shoo-in got walloped in an election.
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    Did you read the disclosures and find them relevant and truthful or not regardless of who leaked them?
    Did you know all those machinations Hillary and her troops used to freeze the D’rat process against Bernie and all the backbiters emailing Podesta about HRC’s failings before the Wikileaks disclosures? Are you saying any of them are Russian lies?

    If it was the Russians, they manipulated the election with the truth — just the truth we were not supposed to learn.
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    Spin on my friends.


    ...or try some facts.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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  12. 07-20-2018, 11:00 AM #12
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    No spin on my end. If a person is gullible enough to believe something enough to make a big decision without first checking it out, they are going to be swindled. I have been on Facebook for many years and not one single ad sways my opinion one way or the other. If I put something out there, it is because I feel the same way, not because I am some lemming blindly following the crowd.


    You want to see some real dummies watch Crowder or some of Waters tapes they make. They actually go out into public and ask the people questions about political rumors and such. The real stupid ones are the ones on college campuses, where they have no clue why some holidays are actually celebrated.



    The propaganda works on both sides, the MSM is spreading theirs in front of the national audience and yet you remain silent on their lies and BS. Trump is this and Trump is that and people believe it. It is all deflection from a bunch of childish liberals who just can not fathom that their candidate got beat because she had no platform to run on, other than to call Trump names and make accusations. The same old political game all sides always play.


    The problem now is people fell for the lies that Obama and the Dems spread about healthcare and saw their taxes rise and the debt spiral. They made a conscious decision to detour away from that same old tired system that never does anything but make camera appearances. If you want to place blame, place it where it needs to go, people are tired of this whole political BS nonsense and are starting to revolt.


    Just look at all of the old timers who are having a hard time running and winning their races, Crowley who was the appointed heir to Pelosi got beat out by a very young self proclaimed socialist. The eyes of the people have been opened and they have seen what can happen when change is actually the main goal and they are voting to make their own lives better. That does not include the Dems platform of hard working Americans last. They are tired of working their asses off to support those who refuse to work and those who come from far away Coutry's to either suck up our welfare or try to do us harm. Just keep watching, it is going to get worse for the Dems very shortly.
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    These ads have about as much effect as the constant telephone calls I get offering to help me get Viagra or reduce my student loans...meaning none. The Russians are not even the nuisance these other bastards are.
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    I might remind you that there were more than a few right here that sucked up the Obama phone crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    I might remind you that there were more than a few right here that sucked up the Obama phone crap.
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