Agree! I hate the shotgun approach to problem solving.Originally Posted by TriGuy
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Agree! I hate the shotgun approach to problem solving.
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
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wtf ever guys. Especially you try guy where California regulates the hell out of everything back and forth. Yeah you want to jump my **** because I'm saying block the cave off. Have at it nobody regulates natural resources and access more than California. Sorry but y'all just pissed me off.
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Yup---and now that I think of it they should fence off Mt. Everest too
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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You guys have a big time at my expense but I'll ask a rhetorical question if this cave were located in California United States of America would they allow unfettered access to a soccer team and their coach. If you can answer that question in the affirmative then I'll take your **** otherwise stop the condemnation it's not justified under the facts in the hand..Yup---and now that I think of it they should fence off Mt. Everest too
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No one is condemning you---this is nothing more than a difference of opinion---relax.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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Agreed.
OPINION....a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
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Enjoy being pissed off....
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I have and I quite enjoyed it
OPINION....a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
Seriously its not personal. I was a rock climber, scuba instructor, mountaineer. There are lots of unskilled folks that get killed or injured trying to do what we do. It's human nature to underestimate the challenge and over estimate your skills. Every now and then the herd gets culled. There was a case in California where a guy went into the Balconies Caves at Pinnacles National Monument ( now National Park) there were signs in English and Spanish warning not to go further without flashlights and not to climb over the railings. He ignored both and in the dark fell down a shaft and broke his back leaving him paralyzed. He sued claiming the park service should have done more to prevent him from getting injured. The judge asked him his level of education, College, and could he read English or Spanish, yes to English. He lost the case. The judge ruled that he understood the warnings and ignored them and besides the government has no obligation to mitigate naturally occurring hazards in the wild area of the country. So to answer your question yes there are lots of places that are very dangerous in the country that you can go non regulated. I know of caves in my area, cliffs, wild rivers etc where we can go unfettered by regulations and gates and get killed or injured by our own negligence.
"The only thing that we learn from torture is the depths of our own moral depravity"
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Good point.Yup---and now that I think of it they should fence off Mt. Everest too
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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Good points. Nothing but a difference of opinion.
As it turns out, they have another opinion - they plan to make it into a museum. Wonder how that will work?
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
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I for one love caves, but like Carlsbad caverns, I won’t be taking the full turn down it.
We have a spiffy one just over the hill from my first house in the San Antonio area called “The Cave With No Name” that had some nice formations in it.
I’m still trying to figure out how the soccer team got 2.4 miles into that one though.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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When I was younger we often explored limestone caves and old iron ore mines----and we took balls of sting in with us to leave a trail. I suspect (or I might have read) that these kids were in the cave and the water level began to rise and from that point they apparently lost all sense of how to get back out and were simply wondering.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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Yeah but everybody's not a 65 year old Superman like you are. In fact most are not and I'm glad you get to do the things you like to do I respect it greatly and you know that from my past posts. I just felt like that they should block this off and a country with less sophistication in many ways than ours to prevent a future crisis. I overreacted I got pissed off mainly because it kind of hurt my feelings that the moderator and the site owner took contrary positions to mine. In many ways it was childish but I did it so on we go.
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Can't get this to post......no way in hell could I ever come close to even thinking about doing this....talk about imposible oods
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