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    Just an observation

    I have been watching the news this week and it seemed like that those opposed to the president are latching onto the mistreatment of the children at the border. It seemed that the media and most of the opposition to the president are very concerned about these children and they are basically accusing the president of being an inhumane monster. Then suddenly Justice Kennedy announced his resignation to the Supreme Court of the United States. Quickly the opposition to the president of the United States began to complain that if the president were able to appoint another Supreme Court Justice the right to abortion could be in jeopardy. That story the one about the possibility that Roe versus wade could be overturned has taken over the entire energy of those opposed to the president. So I guess what I could draw from that if I was being logical is that yes they were initially concerned about all the children on the border but once it came to the fact of being able to end the lives of fetuses and potentially viable children in the womb that was much more important. It's quite confusing to me where these folks really stand and what they believe.
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    We are not supposed to notice the glaring hypocrisy. You are fined $200 and cannot pass GO. There are ~120,000,000 fewer Americans today as a direct result of Roe V. Wade (the population of our five most populace states, combined, or that of Mexico, if you prefer) - most of whom would have been minorities - and we are not supposed to notice or care. Certainly, abortion rights advocates do not.

    Not all people voicing outrage at child treatment on the border are defenders of abortion rights, but I dare say the vast majority are. We folks are a bundle of contradictions.
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    There is no conflict at all for those who support abortion. An unborn child is a fetus not afforded the status of a child.
    Amazing to me are those who show such fervor to abolish Roe v Wade purely on some political mission while having no understanding of the underlying ethical issues.
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    I really do not know what else to say other than by asking a few questions... How could a person be so concerned about one child and have so much hatred for another? You really never knew either child, one came from thousands of miles away and the other has never seen the light of day outside the womb. Yet for one you try to convince people how bad they are being treated and protest and demand better and for the other, you demand the right to kill it outright, your choice only.


    How are normal sane people supposed to figure out that kind of thinking? You think that providing a safe place to stay, warm wholesome meals and medical treatment is somehow inhumane, and yet for another child who is a living human being it is okay to suck them in pieces out of their mothers womb? Your choice is more important than the life itself in both cases.


    Maybe that is why I have problems understanding the thinking of the Left. It makes absolutely no sense to me, no logic and certainly no rationality.

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    There is nothing wrong with my thinking James---check your own.
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    For the record my above post was not directed at you, but rather those on the left who flip flop from one issue to another never holding a firm line on anything.


    And my thinking is on line with many others. You can not preach love and tolerance and then cast hatred out at will. You can not say that you are so worried about kids and then fight tooth and nail for the right to kill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    There is no conflict at all for those who support abortion. An unborn child is a fetus not afforded the status of a child.
    Amazing to me are those who show such fervor to abolish Roe v Wade purely on some political mission while having no understanding of the underlying ethical issues.
    a fetus not being afforded the status of a child. Do we refer to a pregnant woman a being with child or being with fetus?We In the Bible it refers to being with child or being heavy with child. You dehumanize what you kill.

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    Read carefully what I said---I am the last one who would dehumanize an unborn child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    There is no conflict at all for those who support abortion. An unborn child is a fetus not afforded the status of a child.
    Amazing to me are those who show such fervor to abolish Roe v Wade purely on some political mission while having no understanding of the underlying ethical issues.
    Know what's amazing to me is that the Democratic left holds abortion-rights as their Banner mission in life. No pun intended.. I was hoping Dave the good conservative that you are might understand that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    . I was hoping Dave the good conservative that you are might understand that too.
    So---putting your snide remark aside---tell me exactly what it is that you suggest I don't understand.

    Obviously, your "mission" isn't to discuss abortion, rather it is to sling veiled insults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    So---putting your snide remark aside---tell me exactly what it is that you suggest I don't understand.

    Obviously, your "mission" isn't to discuss abortion, rather it is to sling veiled insults.
    Dave my friend if you hadn't selectively cut my post into the quote you wanted to make your point you would understand.
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