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    If it is too good to believe---it probably isn't

    From yesterday's WSJ:

    Students seeking relief on their college and graduate-school debt could be sitting on a hidden tax bomb: Billions of dollars in one-time bills from the Internal Revenue Service for any debt they get forgiven.

    The tax bills are a feature of the “income-driven repayment plans” that have been offered by the Education Department since 2007. One version of these plans allows borrowers to set their monthly student-loan payments at 10% of their discretionary income. The balances often grow over time because the payments aren’t big enough to cover accruing interest.

    Private-sector workers pay for 20 or 25 years. At the end of that period, any remaining balance would be forgiven. Under federal tax rules, that disappearing debt is considered part of a borrower’s income for that given year, and taxed as such.

    Those delayed tax bills are piling up. There are now 7 million borrowers owing $389 billion in income-driven repayment, according to the Education Department. The first borrowers likely won’t have debt expunged until 2027. As enrollment surges, education analysts and student advocates are warning of a potential crisis facing borrowers and the government down the road: huge one-time tax bills that individuals aren’t prepared to pay off.
    The article went on to talk in specifics--one of which I recall was an individual with a $1,000,000 outstanding loan amount and stands to face a $700.000 tax bill when her loan is forgiven.

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    Catch 22
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    Or---it could be more like a "gotcha"---although I doubt anyone was thinking this through to the end when it was instituted.

    There is another whole sub-set that are eligible for forgiveness after only 10 years if they work for a non-profit.
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    That could certainly ruin your day.
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    My daughter is still in school going for her doctorate?? But she's already started paying her loans off, I'm proud of her I figured she'd be one of the ones that said screw it I deserve the loans. My son on the other hand won't borrow anything period. He's going to go into the military to try and get some more schooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    Or---it could be more like a "gotcha"---although I doubt anyone was thinking this through to the end when it was instituted.

    There is another whole sub-set that are eligible for forgiveness after only 10 years if they work for a non-profit.
    Do those working under the non-profit forgiveness program make any loan payments during the initial 10 years? If not, then in keeping with the above, are they suddenly set to get a big April Fool’s surprise in year ten of a tax bill for the loan, which is now counted as income, or are they given extra special treatment because most of them are government workers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Do those working under the non-profit forgiveness program make any loan payments during the initial 10 years? If not, then in keeping with the above, are they suddenly set to get a big April Fool’s surprise in year ten of a tax bill for the loan, which is now counted as income, or are they given extra special treatment because most of them are government workers?
    I can't answer that Joe--- I don't know.

    That program was not mentioned in this article and I am only guessing that there could be a similar issue for that as well.
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    If I am not mistaken, anytime you do not pay back a loan it can be filed under income. Had a neighbor years ago that built a new home and let the old one he was living in go back to the bank as a repo, they filed with the IRS and he had to claim it as income and pay taxes on it. This was 25 years ago, so it is not new.

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    I had a bank write off a loan that I didn't get paid during my divorce. Six/seven years later I had to pay taxes on it because it was considered a gift.
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