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    Now elevated to a science

    BS that is.

    BS requires two things---slingers and catchers---and obviously there is an over abundance of both these days.

    From the full article:
    When people hear a false claim repeated even just once, they are more likely to let it override their prior knowledge on the subject and believe it, according to two studies published together in October 2015 in the Journal of Experimental Psychology. Psychologists say this is an example of the “illusory truth effect,” which shows that repeated statements are thought to be more true than statements heard for the first time.

    “We think it happens because it is easier to process information the second time you hear it,” says Lisa Fazio, a psychologist and assistant professor of psychology and human development at Vanderbilt University, who was the lead author on the study. “It is also time-consuming and difficult to access our previous knowledge, so we often go with information that is close enough.”

    Finally, we fall for B.S. more often when we fail to think analytically. In four studies published together in November 2015 in the journal Judgment and Decision Making, psychologists researched people’s vulnerability to what they call “pseudo-profound bull****.” Subjects completed tests to measure their ability to think analytically and then viewed quotes from people such as poet T.S. Eliot as well as made-up sentences generated by two websites, The Wisdom of Chopra and The New-Age Bull**** Generator. The research showed that people who are more skeptical and analytical were less likely to find the B.S. quotes to be profound yet still likely to find meaning in the real quotes. Follow-up research showed that when the subjects were told ahead of time that some sentences were made up, they become more adept at spotting them, but analytical people still did this better.

    “A lot of the problems with B.S. are because people are not bothering to think as much as they perhaps ought to,” says Gordon Pennycook, a postdoctoral fellow at Yale University who was the lead researcher on the study when he was a graduate student at the University of Waterloo
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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    but analytical people still did this better.
    Pessimistic I'm thinking would be right up there with analytical. Pessimistic people are less prone to believe in bull**** I think. As I write this my old psychology classes keep popping into my mind telling me I'm full of ****. Maybe it's pessimistic people that think analytical.
    This is your mind on drugs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgrist View Post
    Pessimistic I'm thinking would be right up there with analytical. Pessimistic people are less prone to believe in bull**** I think. As I write this my old psychology classes keep popping into my mind telling me I'm full of ****. Maybe it's pessimistic people that think analytical.
    I think to a big degree you are correct--kind of the doubting Thomas syndrome.

    It is also what I have mentioned in the past as "critical thinking"---we have a serious absence of that ability being displayed. As long as it fits my paradigms I'm going to wear it---no thought required.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    With out all this bull roar how would we survive here?
    Old redneck hillbilly borned and raised on a redwood stump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy_Rightwing View Post
    With out all this bull roar how would we survive here?
    We just might have an intelligent discussion.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
    “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis

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    The late, great political scientist Aaron Wildavsky had a saying: “One anecdote is an anecdote. Two anecdotes are data.”
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    “You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution


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    No offense intended but the whole premise of this thread seems to me to be BS
    OPINION....a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

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    What is the premise of this thread?
    This is your mind on drugs!

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