From a larger political perspective this really has little to do with children and families it has more to do with open borders vs. Closed borders or restricted borders. The children are innocent victims.
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From a larger political perspective this really has little to do with children and families it has more to do with open borders vs. Closed borders or restricted borders. The children are innocent victims.
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He probably had a few other things to do. Obama was eight years late, why is it always Trump.Originally Posted by Phillbo
This is your mind on drugs!
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So I think I'm going to ask a pretty simple question there are tens of thousands of unlawful immigrants on our border in the United States with kids. For those of you here that are opposed to president Trump's policies what would your solution be to dispose or handle those individuals. I'm tired of chameleon responses. Tell us what you think I think most of us that agree with the policies have been pretty clear about what we think.
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Because everything is Trumps fault, try to keep up Mike
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Is it not a law, one that was passed decades ago, about how we handle the border situation and the consequences of bypassing our laws? If the main body of the law was passed by Bill Clinton in 1996 and modified again in 2002 and then basically had all of the laws ignored by Obama for 8 years, how is it now the fault of Trump for ENFORCING an existing law? If it was so horrible why didn't Congress fix it before now? After all, the ones with the biggest mouths have been in Congress for decades and were part of the original writing of the law in its beginning.
It is nothing but a political ploy, Obama was hammered for doing the exact same thing. Look back at some of the speeches that Hilliary, Obama, Schumer, Pelosi, Bill Clinton and most of the dems still in the Congress have said about illegal immigration on you tube or any google search. They have said and have promised to do this exact same thing, yet now it is a problem? Hilliary was as recent as 2014 in a town hall speech.
What is even worse is the crap that Peter Fonda spewed today about Baron Trump, saying that he should be ripped from his mothers arms and locked in a cage full of pedophiles. That my friends is sick as hell. He got a call from the Secret Service after Melania reported him....where the hell is the outrage in the media about that crap?
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Let's look at things logically for a minute, without all of the spin. I lived in Del Rio Texas for all of my life until I turned 21. I spent a lot of time in Mexico shopping, partying and doing business. The children in Acuna were very poor for the most part and had a hard life. Actually drove down to Monterrey to a tile manufacturer to pick up some specialty tile and saw some of the inner side of the Country. If those 10,000 kids that are in holding centers in the USA are complaining about anything they should be sent back, because it is all a scam.
The terrain is very unforgiving in Mexico in the interior. The people are pretty poor and they do not have much. The trek from one end of Mexico to the other would be a horrible trip on foot. If these kids made it all alone with all of the pitfalls they would have encountered their parents were not the type of people I would give the time of day to. They faced overwhelming odds from other places too, there are many nefarious "bandits" who would take advantage of them in numerous ways, some to horrific to mention here. There are drug cartels who would exploit them, smugglers, crooks and pedophiles too numerous to mention. It might have taken them a year to travel that distance on foot. Not to mention the lack of food and water being within reach when needed.
The detention centers they are in now is like a small slice of paradise for them. I know it means nothing to the bloated rich politicians and pundits who live very differently. In fact these kids have probably never had their own bed or food and water in abundance anytime they were hungry or thirsty. They are scared, but at the same time quietly thankful that they are now in a place where they do not have to fear for their lives on a daily basis Let's take a step back and look at things realistically, do not make them political pawns, they have been through enough. Let the system work, change it if need be but change it for the good, not because it could score political points for some election and then drive it form the headlines. If you use these kids in that way, you are no better than the coyotes, snakes and other wild animals they have managed to avoid just getting here.
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You got to be freaking kidding me you think these folks are going to look at anything logically and not spin it they are driven by hate and their agenda. It really amazes me but people cannot clearly see what is going on here. But they are going to find out in 2020.
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Crickets cricket cricket just as expected there is no response it's just bash Trump bash Trump bash Trump by Trump who cares about the outcome of anything as long as we bash Trump.
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The crying child photo made the face of the Trump immigration opposition?
See another side of that story —
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32165...-ryan-saavedra
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...peaks-out.html
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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Sadly Waco that is the part of the story the left always leaves out. Look at all of the tent cities in Dem controlled cities. Look at the blacks, who the Dems have defended and said they were protecting for decades, have they been lifted out of poverty? No, they have raised another generation of welfare dependent kids, who think that it is normal to live in poor neighborhoods, surrounded by drugs and crime. The Dems feel sad for the alcoholics and drug dependent street people, but do they change their lives? Did the Dems, mainly Obama, do anything for that Marine veteran that was jailed in Mexico, no he was actually chained to his bed like a slave?
All of this BS is nothing but deflection for the bad news that the IG report uncovered. It blows the lid off of the corruption that the DNC, the FBI, the DOJ as well as the CLinton machine was involved in during the past election, period. The media and the liberals are doing everything in their power to get our eyes focused in another direction so that the citizens do not see just how bad things are and how they have tried their best to manipulate our system.
You want to take care of a homeless child, donate some cash to helping our govt provide for them or adopt them, do something but what they are doing now....sitting on their asses bitching about it. To those who loudly proclaim how ashamed they are that this is happening, do something. Some of these folks have 2 or 3 houses, open the spare house up for them. Typical liberal crap, bitch, whine and moan and do absolutely nothing to help out.
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Why has none of the Trump haters chimed in here......
You would think they would be all over Trump and how he is ****ting on illegals......
Except he's not and they know that......
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It’s the best they can drum up on short notice since the FBI/Intel conspiracy bombed.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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If that makes you feel good---go for it
There is little reason to try to debate anything here. Have you ever tried to discuss the absolute accuracy of the Bible with a fundamentalist zealot?
Increasing this is turning into a cult---so what point is there in trying to debate anything political?
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But but but Dave, a little over a year ago you and your cronies were all about how Trump had used Russia to win an election and we were all going to burn in hell for supporting him. You knew it all, we were all dumb and we would see, is what I heard outta you.If that makes you feel good---go for it
There is little reason to try to debate anything here. Have you ever tried to discuss the absolute accuracy of the Bible with a fundamentalist zealot?
Increasing this is turning into a cult---so what point is there in trying to debate anything political?
Now we all know that this whole children and separation is nothing but a diversion, just like the fake russia collusion crap has been....a Russia collusion cult.
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So what your really saying is this site has gone from a very hard pro left stance to a bunch of whiny babies calling Trump and the people believing in him a cult.....
Funny thing is obama had a cult following, people refuting to see the truth...as did clinton....both of them....and as their houses built on sand come tumbling down...exposing the lies and corruption of the liberal left....
All the democrats can do is pout and call it a cult....
Turns out your not the man you thought you were Dave, you can't admit when your wrong, cant admit how much you hate trump and can't admit your not as smart as you thought you were & got suckered into the liberal "useful idiots" category....
If that makes you feel good---go for it
There is little reason to try to debate anything here. Have you ever tried to discuss the absolute accuracy of the Bible with a fundamentalist zealot?
Increasing this is turning into a cult---so what point is there in trying to debate anything political?
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