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    Are Children Being Separated From Parents Or Strangers?

    The Department Of Health & Safety Secretary explains to a dense press that 10,000 of the 12,000 children in their brief custody were taken from smugglers not parents. The parents were so worried about being separated they sent their children to another country alone or with strangers. Undoubtedly, those in the custody of DHS are in the best facilities of their precarious lives.

    After the short period of retention perhaps they should be dispersed to the extravegant homes of the grandstanding complainers like Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush (whose husband initiated the separation policy), Michelle Obama (whose husband expanded and furthered the policy), Oprah, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and virtually everyone in show biz stumping for a headline until their parents bother to come across the border and retrieve their children or do it the right way and apply for legal status at a port of entry.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...igration-laws/

    https://www.investors.com/politics/e...erance-asylum/
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    Democrats be leave in abortion so is that removing a child from its mother?
    Old redneck hillbilly borned and raised on a redwood stump.

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    If I was arrested for a crime and had my kid with me in the car, I would be separated from my child as I went to jail and they would be taken and put into CPS or some other agency until their next of kin could come and get them. What is the damn difference?


    Hilliary damn Clinton was not squawking like a chicken when her Husband and Janet Reno used automatic rifles to go into a house and take little Elian Gonzales from his relatives and forcibly send him back to Cuba. The same bunch was sure quiet when they roasted alive all of the Branch Davidian children in Waco, with tanks.


    As far as caring about children, these same Dems have been standing on the backs of dead babies for years with their abortion stance, so their howls fall on my deaf ears now.


    I am sure that Kate Steinlee's parents wish she had not been separated from them by some damn illegal, who was repeatedly let back into the country.



    Like was pointed out earlier, these kids were not taken care of in the first place. Their parents were not taking the best care of them if they made them endure endless dangers crossing mountains and deserts without food and water. Not to mention those who are being used by smugglers to either bring in contraband or to be sold as slaves by their "parents". With their medical care, a safe place to sleep and food, water and clothing being given to them in the shelters, they are much better off than they have ever been in their entire lives.


    Are they scared, hell yes they are. I would be and every single one of us would be, but they are not being treated badly as some of the lying politicians and MSM are making this out to be.

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    All of this is a scam, a diversion to get the attention off of the IG report that is damning to them in so many ways. Look at everything the Dems have tossed out there about Trump. This is all about them being butt hurt over the last election. They have tried Russian collusion, racism, Stormy Daniels and they have all failed. This is a continuation of the diversion tactics to keep Hilliary out of prison and to try and attack Trump.

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    Smoke and mirrors, it's noting mre than the democrats trying t do damage control.....

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    This is a disgraceful tragedy and demonstrates how far the US has fallen from the moral high ground. We can no longer condemn anyone for supposed humanitarian abuses.



    Flame away---I cannot care less what the mob has to say---I am ashamed, along with many other conservatives.
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    Load every damn person, man,woman,child on a bus as soon as they are caught. Take them back to Mexico City and drop them off. You want into the U.S. do it the right way and be welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    This is a disgraceful tragedy and demonstrates how far the US has fallen from the moral high ground. We can no longer condemn anyone for supposed humanitarian abuses.



    Flame away---I cannot care less what the mob has to say---I am ashamed, along with many other conservatives.
    Quote Originally Posted by Independent Voter View Post
    Load every damn person, man,woman,child on a bus as soon as they are caught. Take them back to Mexico City and drop them off. You want into the U.S. do it the right way and be welcome.
    I agree with both Dave and IV, with one exception, don't spend money taking them to Mexico City, just across the border is far enough.
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    Even Trump knows it is wrong.

    "I’ll be signing something in a little while [to keep families together]," he said, calling the move "somewhat preemptive" and stressing it would "be matched by legislation." He also said he's canceling the upcoming congressional picnic, adding: "It didn't feel exactly right to me."
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    The worst thing about the situation is a parent in Guatemala giving their 12 year-old girl a pocket full of contraception pills because the chances of rape along the way are well known and wishing her well as they shove her out the door on the way to hopping a train across Mexico, as one Border Patrol agent related as a true incident to an astonished CNN reporter.

    Unaccompanied by parent minors are 5/6 of the minors crossing our borders illegall in our custody. What are we supposed to do with them when stopped by Border Patrol agents? Give them back to the coyote they came across with and wish them all a good day? The sob sisters apparently have no good concept of what is actually happening and certainly no solution for the rush on our borders they encourage by offering sustenance and nurture for the hoards wantingvto come. “Build it and they will come.” The more inviting you make it, the more will come to taste it. Look at California, which built the most inviting welfare system in the country and wonders why their streets are filled with sleeping bags, tents and literally tons of human feces. I’ve got news, California, the two are connected...wise up. What you subsidize and invite, you get more of.

    If you really believe we should welcome these non-citizens, then tell me you volunteered to be a sponsoring family when those children are released after their 20 days of confinement. Put your money and house where your mouth is.

    ...Right now, we have this beacon of we will leave the light on for you, you come across illegally, and we will let you into the country. And if you guys have seen some of the stuff that we have seen down here, you would understand just how important it is to have a tough stance, to divert people from coming here.

    When you see a 12-year-old girl with a Plan B pill or with their — their parents put her on birth control because they know that getting violated as part of a journey, that’s just a terrible way to live.

    BALDWIN: Oh.

    CABRERA: When you see a 4-year-old girl traveling completely alone with just her parents’ phone number written across her shirt, I mean, come on now.

    Something needs to be done. We had a 9-year-old boy last year have a heatstroke and die in front of us with no family around. And that’s because we’re allowing people to continue to take advantage of this system...
    https://thenationalsentinel.com/2018...ng-none-of-it/
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    Joe,

    Unaccompanied minors are a different problem. What to do with them? I sure as hell don't know, but I know we should care for them until a solution is found. Can't just toss them back across the border like we can do with the families and adults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Joe,

    Unaccompanied minors are a different problem. What to do with them? I sure as hell don't know, but I know we should care for them until a solution is found. Can't just toss them back across the border like we can do with the families and adults.
    I do not see any sign that the naysayers and protestors make any distinction between children without their real parents and those few with them or even acknowledge there is a difference.

    Our porous borders are considered an open invitation and foreigners treat them that way. Half our population likes it that way. I do not. A country without real, enforced borders is a territory not a country.
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    And yet the same bleeding hearts do not mind a woman having her fetus sucked out of her womb because it is her right? What choice did that child have? It was a living human being too.


    Load em up and ship em back. This is what happens when you do not enforce the existing laws for years and let people just cross willy nilly. Having people worry about it now is crazy, this is why laws have to be enforced and we can not let them go unenforced as somebody will take advantage of them. I was told that Mexico has a very strict immigration law, if the visitors ask to stay there, Mexico refuses and take them back across the southern border. One side note, if they do not ask for asylum and state that they will keep moving until they get to the US border, they are allowed to pass through.

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    Unaccompanied minors should be taken care of. They should NOT be allowed to import the rest of their family at a later date. If their family wants to rejoin them the child must leave the USA.

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    A very poor Policy corrected by an unneeded Executive Order today. Trump was too late on changing this.

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