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    The Nitty Gritty Of The FBI Ivestigation Of The Trump Campaign

    A longtime former FBI agent and insider takes us through the steps required by the FBI rules for the three types of investigations they allow and applies what we know now to those rules, which analysis offers the explanation why the FBI has tried so vigorously to conceal their documentation. In essence, they most likely have cheated the process and the documents will prove just how much, to what extent and who did it.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...o_spygate.html

    If the documents verify the steps were taken properly and exonerate the investigation, why are they trying so hard to conceal the documents?
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    Our President will clean this mess up soon. Lets face it the "O" FBI didn't want a real Pres in there because they liked playing liberal games.
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    We may be to far gone for Trump or anybody else to fix the mess we're in. We're in the good times, plenty of work etc... nobody is much worried about those in office except for a few splinter groups on the right and everybody knows their just a bunch of nuts.
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    If the details he describes are even vaguely true, then our premier Law enforcement body of the USA is in shambles and corrupt beyond measure. I especially was surprised at the turn of the Russian lawyer who met with Don Jr, possibly being a setup from the FBI. And then the MSM and every Dem going on and on about how she was connected to the Trump Russia collusion claim, when in fact she could have been a plant by the FBI?


    Trump is not the problem here, the DOJ and Lynch are looking real guilty, not to mention Rosenstein, Obama is looking guilty, and there is much more corruption in the FBI than first thought. Folks, all of this over a lowlife scumbag like Hilliary? Really people, our entire system is being exposed because a two bit lying skank like Hilliary lost her coronation?


    It also means that our MSM is guilty of spreading lies as well. As has been shown by the outing of the lying NYT reporter, they have also been involved with leaks for political gain. This whole mess needs to be cleaned up, people need to be fired and many need to go to jail, not to mention never trusting the MSM again.

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    Question is, where do we go from here.......

    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    If the details he describes are even vaguely true, then our premier Law enforcement body of the USA is in shambles and corrupt beyond measure. I especially was surprised at the turn of the Russian lawyer who met with Don Jr, possibly being a setup from the FBI. And then the MSM and every Dem going on and on about how she was connected to the Trump Russia collusion claim, when in fact she could have been a plant by the FBI?


    Trump is not the problem here, the DOJ and Lynch are looking real guilty, not to mention Rosenstein, Obama is looking guilty, and there is much more corruption in the FBI than first thought. Folks, all of this over a lowlife scumbag like Hilliary? Really people, our entire system is being exposed because a two bit lying skank like Hilliary lost her coronation?


    It also means that our MSM is guilty of spreading lies as well. As has been shown by the outing of the lying NYT reporter, they have also been involved with leaks for political gain. This whole mess needs to be cleaned up, people need to be fired and many need to go to jail, not to mention never trusting the MSM again.

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    I really do not know, but it is not going to be pretty. There may be some nasty stuff about to hit the fan and people who are offended by little things had better find a safe space and hunker down.


    Imagine the left finding out that all of the garbage they have been fed was nothing but a lie. Then at the same time nobody respects the rule of law any longer because it is no longer fair. Our enemies all around the globe are drooling over the scenario to where we are no longer able to function as a Country because of all of the infighting and decide to ruin us financially or possibly even through other means as they know that the Dems are fighting tooth and nail to let every Tom Dick and Harry cross our borders without any confrontation.


    Americans and other have always bragged that the rule of law separates the societies, well we are slipping into the stage where our legal system is corrupt, our laws no longer mean a damn thing and people are reverting to be just plain stupid, and it is all propelled by a MSM that no longer cares about speaking the truth, political leaders who are corrupt and a population that no longer respects anything.


    The kicker is the lying scum that are pushing all of this are not even worth a plugged nickel, yet they are bringing a once proud Country to its knees.

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    If you read the full article, you will probably remember this part —

    ...A Full Investigation may be initiated if there is an [b]articulable factual basis for the investigation[\b] that reasonably indicates that one of the two conditions specified above (with regard to Preliminary Investigations) actually exists.

    This suggests why the FBI and DoJ are so intent on preventing Congress from reading the EC that opened the Full Investigation on July 31, 2016. The EC would have had to state the "articulable factual basis" for the investigation. In other words, the EC would have had to assert that there were specific, verified facts indicating a ​threat to national security, and it would have had to explicitly state what those facts were. When someone determinedly attempts to withhold a document of that sort from Congress I think we're entitled to draw some adverse conclusions...
    The full investigation undertaken under Comey’s FBI commenced on July 28, 2016. Nune’s Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed the documents constituting the “articulable factual basis” from the FBI and has been stonewalled for months. It is coming to a head with impeachment & contempt threatened against the decision maker on this issue, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who shows every sign of obstinance and refusal to comply. If he has offered a reason for refusal, I have not seen it. Until the public sees an iota of there, there we need to know why we are going through this goat rope.
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    Yes and like I stated in another thread, the IG today said he was reviewing the actions of Peter Strzok and who knows how many others, so this may finally be released to the public. Strzok was escorted from the FBI building today so we may get that info pretty quick.


    I am thinking it is going to implicate all of the heads of the DOJ as well as the FBI.

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    Strzok is slated to testify to various committees in Congress. The lying will be prodigious and entertaining unless he does the Lois Lerner dance, which any lawyer would advise him to do.
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    The DOJ in the face of harsh threats as I mentioned in #7 above has started to produce documents they previously refused to turn over. We will soon see if they produce the critical ones and how they redact the ones produced.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...by-republicans
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    I would imagine there are quite a few folks in the DOJ as well as the FBI, that are as nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. As a side note I will say that there are a few politicians and folks connected to the Hilliary campaign that are getting a bit queasy about now too.


    We may be on the brink of solving several different cases and problems. First is the Hilliary email fiasco, second will be the Russian collusion/dossier BS and third is the DNC being hacked into story. This may turn out badly for the whole Dem bunch, and guess what, it is right being done right before another election. This time instead of her royal highness getting her coronation, it will impact the "blue wave" and taking back control of Congress for the Dems.


    I hope it also serves to expose the MSM liberal media for the fakes and frauds that they are. Have you noticed that since the little NYT reporter that was banging the Senate guy and both of them were shafted, that that rag has quite putting out their big stories? Guess we now know where the leak was and what the price of getting some scoop costs. Maybe Stormy will have her as a side act, but since Stormy's sleazy lawyer got thumped in his own lawsuit, we do not even get the latest on the whore report.

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    then there is this


    https://tinyurl.com/y8owcbza

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A Senate committee said Tuesday that U.S. intelligence agencies' assessment of Russian activities during the 2016 presidential election was based on "sound" analysis not swayed by politics.

    The January 2017 intelligence assessment said Russian activities in the run-up to the presidential election represented a "significant escalation" in a long history of Russian attempts to interfere in U.S. domestic politics, the committee said.

    The intelligence agencies found that Russians had engaged in cyber-espionage and distributed messages through Russian-controlled propaganda outlets to undermine public faith in the democratic process, "denigrate" Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and develop a "clear preference" for Donald Trump.

    The Senate intelligence committee's report comes as Trump continues to cast doubt on whether Russians interfered in the presidential election. Late last month, Trump tweeted: "Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!"

    The report also comes two weeks before Trump is scheduled to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

    The committee said it perused thousands of pages of documents and conducted interviews with relevant parties that helped the CIA, FBI and National Security Agency compile its review about Russian meddling.

    Committee chairman Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., said the panel spent 16 months reviewing the sources, tradecraft and analytic work underpinning the intelligence community assessment and sees "no reason to dispute the conclusions."

    "In all the interviews of those who drafted and prepared the ICA (intelligence community assessment), the committee heard consistently that analysts were under no politically motivated pressure to reach any conclusions," the committee said.

    Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, the ranking Democrat on the committee, said the panel thoroughly reviewed all aspects of the intelligence agencies' work leading up to its assessment.

    "The Russian effort was extensive and sophisticated, and its goals were to undermine public faith in the democratic process, to hurt Secretary Clinton and to help Donald Trump," Warner said.

    Earlier this year, Republicans on the House intelligence committee concluded there was no collusion or coordination between Trump's presidential campaign and Russia. Democrats on the House panel sharply disagreed, saying the Republican-controlled panel had not interviewed enough witnesses or gathered enough evidence to make a definitive assessment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuy View Post
    then there is this


    https://tinyurl.com/y8owcbza

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A Senate committee said Tuesday that U.S. intelligence agencies' assessment of Russian activities during the 2016 presidential election was based on "sound" analysis not swayed by politics.

    The January 2017 intelligence assessment said Russian activities in the run-up to the presidential election represented a "significant escalation" in a long history of Russian attempts to interfere in U.S. domestic politics, the committee said.

    The intelligence agencies found that Russians had engaged in cyber-espionage and distributed messages through Russian-controlled propaganda outlets to undermine public faith in the democratic process, "denigrate" Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and develop a "clear preference" for Donald Trump.

    The Senate intelligence committee's report comes as Trump continues to cast doubt on whether Russians interfered in the presidential election. Late last month, Trump tweeted: "Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!"

    The report also comes two weeks before Trump is scheduled to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, Finland.

    The committee said it perused thousands of pages of documents and conducted interviews with relevant parties that helped the CIA, FBI and National Security Agency compile its review about Russian meddling.

    Committee chairman Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., said the panel spent 16 months reviewing the sources, tradecraft and analytic work underpinning the intelligence community assessment and sees "no reason to dispute the conclusions."

    "In all the interviews of those who drafted and prepared the ICA (intelligence community assessment), the committee heard consistently that analysts were under no politically motivated pressure to reach any conclusions," the committee said.

    Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, the ranking Democrat on the committee, said the panel thoroughly reviewed all aspects of the intelligence agencies' work leading up to its assessment.

    "The Russian effort was extensive and sophisticated, and its goals were to undermine public faith in the democratic process, to hurt Secretary Clinton and to help Donald Trump," Warner said.

    Earlier this year, Republicans on the House intelligence committee concluded there was no collusion or coordination between Trump's presidential campaign and Russia. Democrats on the House panel sharply disagreed, saying the Republican-controlled panel had not interviewed enough witnesses or gathered enough evidence to make a definitive assessment.
    And there it is it has nothing to do with President Trump or his campaign
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    Note what the Senate committee’s statement did not say: 1.) the Russian efforts swayed any votes, much less enough to turn any or enough states to change the election; 2.) the Trump Campaign was complicit in any way.
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