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Why why let your hate for the republican party and Trump interfere with yet another historic event no other president has ever done.....Originally Posted by FredK
Why can't you stand up and congratulate Trump for doing something nobody else has ever come close to.....
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The only thing I see is that we aren't doing a exercise with SK. Everything else is open for discussion and interpretation by one side or the other.
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"Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've
stayed alive."
'Take care of yourself, and each other.'
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No other resident on the face of the planet in the history of the world has done what Trump has done.
Is there lots to be done....yes, without question, could NK back out, yes without question....
What do you want....do you want NK to open Korean restaurants in America, BK in NK or what.....
Americans who have fought and have friends/family killed in Korea get to see the beginning of Peace, what they fought and died for....we get our POW/MIA war dead back.....is that not important.
What we get...is one less country that has nukes ready to pop em off....is that not important.
Who cares if NK plays head games, they want this more than we do, this will elevate them diplomatically world wide, they will get more recognition, money, food.
Did not see people bitching when Vietnam started playing games, when Cuba was playing games and obama blowing them....and nothing came from Cuba...what came from Iran and the money obama backdoor ed them...or NK, how much did he give NK and NK laughed at him....
Trump is not playing baby games like obama, he is firm, powerful and not about to fall for the bull**** that obama allowed to happen, the bull**** that clinton allowed....
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I just do not understand the Dems. Last week when Trump cancelled the meeting because lil Kim got but hurt they all thought the world would end. Then when Rudy said that lil Kim came crawling back to beg the meeting actually happen, they again thought that insulting Asians like that was horrible. Now after the meeting has actually happened, both sides came away happy with each other, the same clowns from two weeks ago are beating the **** out of Kim and everything he has done and calling Trump out for "giving away the farm".
I can see having different views but come on, at least pick one side and ride the storm out. These idiots are flipp flopping more than John F'n Kerry.
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Do you really think that anything he signs will ever be followed through? You pay taxes, you die and a korean dictator lies.
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I've tried really hard more than once to see things the way the left does, really hard. I've tried really hard more than once to see things the way the left does, really hard. One of the things I found was that they don't have a side, what ever the right does is wrong period. No discussion, no logic, no reason just hate. Hell you've jumped on me a couple of times for having a different view but not every time I opened my mouth. We all need some lessons on humility and patience but the left.... The right has it's nuts and idiots but most times you can look at them and see it.But the left, they will be the down fall of democracy. It's like 2T out loud telling us that all men are basically rapists and scum. All men they are all the same, that's mental illness not a view point. Philbo most be having marriage problem he has joined the political movement now. Obamas largest accomplishment was racial strife. Thump is and idiot but he's standing tall and doing what he can do. He has no magic wand but he's not creating more problems than we had. He's had some good thing going but the left figures out how to to destroy them they will tell how bad they were.
I've tried really hard more than once to see things the way the left does, When I didn't even know who my son ans daughter were hell I didn't know who I was was I still had more smarts then our esteemed left wing psychos
This is your mind on drugs!
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I am not getting giddy until Kim’s nukes are verifiably gooone. We are dealing with the devil and I want to see the weapons in the fire rather than just the smoke. We have no choice but to give it the requisite time to prove out. No Nobel’s yet. However, this is the very best that can constitute a good start. Do not sell that short.
We have not given up squat. Know that the military exercises we “cancelled” were not scheduled until next spring and they would cost us million$ anyway and improved our readiness just about zero. They are mostly for show and bluster.
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Yes I do, he has noting to gain and everything to loose if he does not follow thru....
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Having bee in in Korea and played these war games.....
Yes they are needed, yes they improve the troops, the skill sets to survive a conflict.
New troops come and go every month you will always have a pool of new blood that has never been in Korea and has no idea what is going on or what is expected of them till they get boots on the ground, see it and live it....it's different from every other theater of war in the world we have troops.
My 1st exercise I was lost, by the 3rd it was game on and still was a good learning tool that I took skill sets learned there and applied them to other base other areas in my career.....
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This guy explains it better than I will ever get it across to you:
One of the costs of the Trump era is that all opinions become suspect because, even more than usual, everything is seen through the prism of whether you are for or against the president. Consequently, criticism of President Trump is regularly assumed by his supporters to be rooted in bad faith.
The retort to any judgment against his statements or his policies typically begins with “You wouldn’t say this . . .” and ends with “if Obama (or Bush or Clinton) were doing it.”
In the interest of candor, let’s acknowledge that many of us are automatically suspicious of everything Trump says because he not only is a documented liar but also came close to copping to the fact during a news conference in Singapore.
In explaining what he’d do if he proved to be mistaken about his big bet this week on the integrity of Kim Jong Un, Trump said: “I may stand before you in six months and say, ‘Hey, I was wrong.’”
Then he caught himself and added: “I don’t know that I’ll ever admit that, but I’ll find some kind of an excuse.”
This was our salesman-in-chief reveling in his skill at covering up and deceiving.
Fred
"Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've
stayed alive."
'Take care of yourself, and each other.'
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Well, it is a revelation when a politician hints at his foibles...something Obama has never coming close to doing.
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Fred, all politicians lie...that is a well known fact. They always have and always will. It is the only tool they have to make all kinds of different thinking people vote for them.
The media lies, all of them, same excuse.
Trump can stand flat footed and tell the truth and the media tells a lie to make him look bad. Nobody wins when the media lies. The media is supposed to be the ones that hold the feet to the fire about what really happened and what is the real truth. Sadly the ones that used to be the best are now the worst at spreading lies and are only believed because the old farts are remembering when the media broke real stories.
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I agree.
I do wish that Trump would stop the victory dance and copious doses of patting himself on the back---he knows it is fake but his cult following thinks the world has been reborn.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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