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    In The NeverEnding search for Utopia

    California moves to limit the maximum gallons of water a citizen and use per month. And there are proposals on the table to tax drinking water. And we thought the Europeans were enlighted. California is not going to let them out do them. But reading the news today it seems that the UK is jailing reporters because they don't like what they reported. Come on California you get that one going too.
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    well when you have drinking water running down the streets from green lawns in the dessert (Los Angeles, San Diego, bay area), reservoirs drying up, major rivers running dry. you have to do something to make people stop wasting a limited resource needed by the 40 million residents to drink and grow food.
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    My garden is started so every drop over 500cf is extra, but love my garden so pay. Why can't you water buffs down south think out of the box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuy View Post
    well when you have drinking water running down the streets from green lawns in the dessert (Los Angeles, San Diego, bay area), reservoirs drying up, major rivers running dry. you have to do something to make people stop wasting a limited resource needed by the 40 million residents to drink and grow food.
    Your right, wonder how much Vegas pays for all those fountains and ponds?
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    And yet the State sits right on the biggest ocean on the planet. Somehow a desal plant would make huge sense to place there. Innovation could make it work, they need water, they have plenty, they just need to find a cheap way to convert it from salt.


    Actually it would solve another problem, many of the eco whackos are worried about the ocean rising, why not suck a bunch of the rising water out of the ocean and use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuy View Post
    well when you have drinking water running down the streets from green lawns in the dessert (Los Angeles, San Diego, bay area), reservoirs drying up, major rivers running dry. you have to do something to make people stop wasting a limited resource needed by the 40 million residents to drink and grow food.
    I understand the frustration I really do but it some point California has to realize they cannot reach Utopia with regulation and Taxation. Ultimately they will run themselves out of business regardless of the wonderful climate and the abundant resources. You might not believe me but I love California I think it's a wonderful place but the leadership is bat**** crazy.
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    Nothing like min management by the politicians and California Department of Water Resources while blaming it on Global warming, Global Freezing....climate change....

    Why not take all the runoff that is wasted & goes into the ocean, lots of water but nooooo Kalif politicians are screwing the pooch once again...and blaming everything and everybody but themselves for the problem.

    Hell, they lied about the Oroville Dam's main and emergency spillways and screwed the pooch there in a major way......

    But hey, it's all global warming fault & soon you get one flush a day for a household of 4 and have water police traveling in packs filling the jails with water wasters while letting rapists and murders go free....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgrist View Post
    Your right, wonder how much Vegas pays for all those fountains and ponds?
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    Where is all the water? Water doesn't go away after use. Every drop that has ever been on the earth is still here. Is it slowly ending up in the ocean? Is it working it's way down into aquifers that we can't reach? There's an answer, the powers that be would just rather play power games then find a solution. Tex mentioned Desalination, it keeps Australia and parts of the middle east awash in fresh water. If Cali would quit throwing their money into bottomless pits they could afford to build a plant or three or four.
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    when Iwas on Okinawa they had several desalination plants, but they were not always working, had lots of issues and we would end up in water rationing (24 on/24 off) every year for a we or 3 depending on how many typhoons hit the island.

    Now in Abu Dhabi they had it down to a science and from what I've been told it's even larger now...they did reverse osmosis somehow in the UAE and water flowed more thre than in Las Vegas....in Al Dhafra we could not drink the water, it was piped into cisterns and such and a open system that was poluted, still "clean" but not up to American standards....showering was fine, but brushing teeth with bottled water...

    No reason Kalif can't do it, but your right, they spend to much money on illegals, and fighting the feds instead of building and maintaining infrastructure, but here again, we know socialists are rotten at infrastructure and only do what will keep getting them elected...Oroville Dam....perfect example....

    Why is it illegal to collect rain water, why is it illegal to so so many things the rest of the world does & you can't i Kalif.....where y sister lived in Calif she has had lots of rain, but they can't collect it...

    Quote Originally Posted by mgrist View Post
    Where is all the water? Water doesn't go away after use. Every drop that has ever been on the earth is still here. Is it slowly ending up in the ocean? Is it working it's way down into aquifers that we can't reach? There's an answer, the powers that be would just rather play power games then find a solution. Tex mentioned Desalination, it keeps Australia and parts of the middle east awash in fresh water. If Cali would quit throwing their money into bottomless pits they could afford to build a plant or three or four.

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    Actually we just passed an initiative making rainwater collection legal and not taxable as a home improvement when you install a rainwater collection system on your home
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda View Post
    I understand the frustration I really do but it some point California has to realize they cannot reach Utopia with regulation and Taxation. Ultimately they will run themselves out of business regardless of the wonderful climate and the abundant resources. You might not believe me but I love California I think it's a wonderful place but the leadership is bat**** crazy.
    If you thought Gov. Jerry Brown is/was a nut, then just wait for Gov. Gavin Newsom who is a stone cold Lefty hack bought and paid by government unions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuy View Post
    Actually we just passed an initiative making rainwater collection legal and not taxable as a home improvement when you install a rainwater collection system on your home
    This is your mind on drugs!

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    So it passed and is now law.

    My sister got a fine/ticket and threatened with jail for making her own rain collection barrels hooked to the downspouts from the house to water a garden when she lived in Tracy.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TriGuy View Post
    Actually we just passed an initiative making rainwater collection legal and not taxable as a home improvement when you install a rainwater collection system on your home

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    In which state is “Tracy?”
    I’m pretty sure I read about fines in Colorado for illegally collecting water off roofs of houses there.
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