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    Here’s Your Big Opportunity, Ben

    A restorable F4 is up for sale. Just a bit of touch up work and $4+M needed.

    http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone...om-fighter-jet
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    It seems like a bargain indeed, and I saw it for sale earlier, but we have to remember it's the less desirable "H" model and its J-79's would need extensive work to bring them up to combat specs...The Collings Foundation's F-4D could run rings around it (quite embarrassing)...The 600 gallon centerline tank and two wing-mounted 370 gallon tanks included are a nice touch though...

    The $4M sticker price is still quite attractive until you consider what it would cost for the upgrades to bring the performance level up to par...The low hours on the airframe are a real plus also, but I think I'll hold out for finding someone with an F-4E model in his garage who needs to make room for his new Tesla......Ben
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    We can all appreciate you holding out for only the best. You are a quality kind of guy.
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    Joe, something combining the traditional with the modern might pique your own interest...Sasquatch...

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    Wish I could be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Wish I could be there.
    I was there last year, but the day I picked was rained out...Didn't even get through the gate...

    And no refunds or credits on tickets, not even Eagle Squadron...I'll try again this year......Ben
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    All that air being sucked through/over/around the propeller into the jet engine doesn't screw up anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgrist View Post
    All that air being sucked through/over/around the propeller into the jet engine doesn't screw up anything?
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    I would guess that the prop wash would benefit by increasing air pressure at the intake of the jet engine. Kind of like a mini-turbocharger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    I would guess that the prop wash would benefit by increasing air pressure at the intake of the jet engine. Kind of like a mini-turbocharger.
    I was figuring it would help the jet engine but I was thinking the force of the wind being drawn in would cause trouble with propeller creating a engine brake type scenario or vice versa.
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    The jet intake being downstream of any airflow relative to the propeller, wouldn’t any air it “sucked” in increase the air flow over the propellers thereby increasing their efficiency as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    The jet intake being downstream of any airflow relative to the propeller, wouldn’t any air it “sucked” in increase the air flow over the propellers thereby increasing their efficiency as well?
    I totally agree with that premise. I'm having trouble putting forth what I mean. If your prop is turning at 2000 RPM's with the throttle set at whatever,70%. Does the extra wind turn the prop past what the engine RPM's call for, does pushing the motor past RPM's of the cam etc... create excess force on the propeller shaft? Does the extra wind disrupt the efficient flow by sucking all that extra air through the bottom half of the blade? Vibration? Does any of the above make any sense?
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    I see you now. I guess the pilot could always throttle back if it was too efficient, but uneven flow at the bottom would seem to possibly occasion a vibration. The arraignment has been working for years, so I’m sure the pilot could tell us it’s peculiarities. I’ll bet Ben can track him down and get the skinny for us kibitzers.
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