Just an observation

[Honda]

Unfortunately I read a lot. I take in 8 to 20 news sources a day from all political Spectrums. I try to evaluate them fairly and I try to make my own judgment as to the truth and veracity of each one. I've come to a conclusion that Russian interference in the election is the least of our worries. It seems like American interference in the election actually happened. Very sad indeed.

[Billy_Rightwing]

Hope they will dig up the facts and rattle some heads.

[TxMusky]

Yes it did, and the sad thing is that the MSM and a bunch of the American people are completely missing that point. It should have been a huge indication when Hilliary and the DNC did it to a member of their own party, they cheated against Bernie, were caught redhanded at it and they just do not care.


Now with all of the evidence that is coming out about spies in the Trump campaign, by the FBI and DOJ as well as the sitting POTUS?? That should be in every paper in 4 inch headlines and people screaming at the top of their lungs demanding more investigations.


This is going to include politicians from both sides and is going to shock our entire political system. This is the big news, not some BS trumped up Russia collusion fake news.

[Honda]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk

[mgrist]

This is going to include politicians from both sides and is going to shock our entire political system. This is the big news, not some BS trumped up Russia collusion fake news.

I doubt anything will ever come of any of it. The city counsel all the way to Trump is one big knot of greed and corruption. If Trump were the only good one out of the lot he's not big enough to flip it all over on it's ear. Where would/could you even start? This same stuff has been going on for over 200 years. Those farmers and merchants that filled the house and senate were farmers and they all got rich, so it has been ever since. Maybe Trump can get the ball rolling then hope it will keep rolling.

[mgrist]

Unfortunately I read a lot. I take in 8 to 20 news sources a day from all political Spectrums. I try to evaluate them fairly and I try to make my own judgment as to the truth and veracity of each one. I've come to a conclusion that Russian interference in the election is the least of our worries. It seems like American interference in the election actually happened. Very sad indeed.

I think it is a worry but just because of our press. Maybe if we stayed out of their politics they would stay out of ours, nah. Their press can't print what they want anyway.

[mgrist]

What was the name of that book "Unintended Consequences? That's what we need, any familiar know what I'm talking about.

[Independent Voter]

What was the name of that book "Unintended Consequences? That's what we need, any familiar know what I'm talking about.

Are you talking about the 2nd amendment book ?. Well not really about the amendment but gun culture.


Unintended Consequences: Ross, John

[TxMusky]

People that vote are the change needed, they are the ones who make the demands and greed and corruption can only survive as long as the voters let it. A big lesson was the way that Hilliary got beaten in a sure win election, one that was just about guaranteed for her to win. Problem was, she counted on two big States and flipped the bird to us "little people". She was counting on the east coast and the west coast, basically New York and Cali, to carry her to the throne. Those two with a few "normal" blue States were her ticket in, the electoral college saved us from her reign of terror and corruption.


Now the MSM has been exposed as being corrupt and a bunch of liars and around the corner is the exposure of the FBI and DOJ as being as corrupt as the rest of the "fake news" outlets.


Look at this from a reverse angle, with most of the MSM, the DNC, the DOJ and the FBI, being in bed with colluding with a candidate to sway an American election and they fail, what does that say for the victory that Trump won? The people are tired of the corrupt politicians, they did not want to follow the path that the trail has been going down. They did not believe the media stories and they took a chance and went with change from a system they no longer trusted.


Despite all of the "leaks" the NYT and CNN are providing, the people just do not care. They know those news sources are liars ans cheats and are trying to make them fall into a trap. America is going through a peaceful revolution without firing a shot. They used the ballot to oust a "system" that was no longer serving their needs. Is that not what the voting system was intended to do? The left and the old "hardliners" in the party are having convulsions about it and the MSM are still doing their best to say that the American voters are stupid and they did not vote in the way that the corrupt people wanted them too.


Funny thing is, look around the world and the same techniques are used in Countries that do not have a Democracy, like Russia and Venezuela and Cuba. The politicians control the media, the media reports what they are told and the only stories the people get to see are the ones the "certified" political agenda lets them. These same American media outlets are acting just like the Russians they are accusing of interfering in our elections. Pot calling the Kettle black if you ask me.

[wacojoe]

We have learned, grudgingly from those assiduously hiding the information, that the Obama administration in cahoots with his party’s national campaign launched a counter-intelligence operation against a rival presidential campaign complete with spies, wiretaps, unprecedented unmasking, fawning media leaks, and FISA warrants based on lies and obfuscations. And, despite all that the target of the intrigue and political chicanery is either the most brilliant political operative in history to carry out a vast & treasonous conspiracy without leaving proof, or is completely an innocent victim of a far greater conspiracy. Take your pick.

[mgrist]

Are you talking about the 2nd amendment book ?. Well not really about the amendment but gun culture.


Unintended Consequences: Ross, John

Yes sir, That's it!

[Dork]

Nothing to see here, move along.....

In other news Trump had sex with a hooker when he was 19 years old and paid that hooker off & now he's a bad boy who tampered with the election by hiring the Russians to make it so he would win. He hats all people of color, is anti imagration and hates everybody not born in America and if he had a cancer for diabetes tomorrow the media would not say one word except how big pharm is going broke thanks to Trump....

We have learned, grudgingly from those assiduously hiding the information, that the Obama administration in cahoots with his party’s national campaign launched a counter-intelligence operation against a rival presidential campaign complete with spies, wiretaps, unprecedented unmasking, fawning media leaks, and FISA warrants based on lies and obfuscations. And, despite all that the target of the intrigue and political chicanery is either the most brilliant political operative in history to carry out a vast & treasonous conspiracy without leaving proof, or is completely an innocent victim of a far greater conspiracy. Take your pick.