CDC Stats Show Guns Used Defensively 3.6X More Often Than By Criminals

[wacojoe]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29724...-ryan-saavedra

[mgrist]

It's probably a lot higher on just the reasons specified but it will never fly. The first dig will be on the publication it's in no matter how truthful it is. I've never heard of them but that hardly matters. Hell the truth hardly matters in anything anymore, but that's a thread of it's own.

[Kevin]

Well, before we get too excited, let's step back for a moment.

First, this is a report about what someone else has found. As such, it is an argument that relies on the credibility of Kleck, not the CDC. Kleck has been called out for skewing data in the past, so his credibility is extremely suspect.

Second, we don't know how Kleck arrived at his conclusions. We only know that the reporter is telling us that Kleck concluded something, not how he got to that point. See point above.

This article is a lot less persuasive once you realize how much you are not being told.

[Billy_Rightwing]

Lets not make a big deal out of any argument we read now days, fake news vs real news makes for a lot of back and fourth.

[wacojoe]

That the CDC buried their data is significant. Now that they are exposed anyone is free to interpret them as Kleck has done. Skewer Kleck’s conclusions if you can. Let’s hear from the anti-gun forces and their assessment. The ball is in their court. We will see if their prior figure of 100,000 defensive uses of guns against the millions presented by Kleck holds up. Biiig difference, hard to miss.

The CDC stats used here are nearly two decades old, so there’s a starting point for attack, plus it’s just a survey unverified against facts.

Let’s do our own survey here — how many have used a firearm in a defensive situation. I have for one and glad I had it although I did not fire it. There is one thing you can say with certainty — damned near every one old enough to use one in one of those school situations under attack by a gunman wished for one thing other than being gone...their own gun.

[Truckman]

Let’s do our own survey here — how many have used a firearm in a defensive situation.

Carrying is a "use," and appearing in public is a "defensive situation" in today's world...So I can answer "yes" for every time I've stepped outside my home since sometime in the mid-seventies......Ben