But you forget, he is not an emperor, he must do most of the dealings through Congress and we all know herding cats is much easier than that. Shove all of them out and start over. The old boys network is a cancer.
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But you forget, he is not an emperor, he must do most of the dealings through Congress and we all know herding cats is much easier than that. Shove all of them out and start over. The old boys network is a cancer.
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You might want to send him a tweet to that effect because he thinks he's an emperor.Originally Posted by TxMusky
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
"Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
“You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” ---C. S. Lewis
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He is an egomaniac, everybody, including his supporters, knew that when he was elected. Most of us do not want scalpels, we want meat axes.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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And dynamite
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That was the empty suit known as Obama.......
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Meat axes, dynamite - you guys are talking about the concept of "creative destruction".
Of course, it is a Marxist concept but don't let that stand in your way. Conservatives have flip flopped on so many issues under Trump already that cribbing Karl Marx is just not even strange anymore.
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You are high on “change,” Kevin, but me thinks you want it only at your chosen pace. You might give thought to the history of Thomas Jefferson long before Karl Marx promoted radical “change” every few generations as a cure of institutional inertia and stagnation. The last big change in government was in the 1930’s, when statism grabbed hold, I posit. That was four generations ago. Time for another.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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Why should I want change at any other pace than one that suits me?
I think Jefferson's idea of change kinda clashes with Marx's though, if nothing in nothing else than the character of the outcome.
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Do you harbor the notion that I want Marx’ or a Cloward/Previn outcome rather than Jefferson’s?
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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I think that conservatives these days who talk about meat axes and dynamite are talking more about the destruction more than the creative part. They seem to be doing things out of a need for emotional catharsis rather than deliberative policy, so I don't imagine even they know or care what gets created as long as it is different.
That's how we end up with Trump.
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I’ll concede there is an element of that thinking in my group and within me as well, but only an element. The larger thinking is something radical needs to occur to change direction from a command & control from Washington to a dispersed and individual control society. Trump is the only thing radical left after Rand Paul and Ted Cruz were eliminated, at least on the conservative side of the spectrum.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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We got Trump because people were tired of things as usual. Call it what moniker you want, the people chart their own course by voting in people of their choice. Whether that was a good choice will be found out further down the road. ALl of the issues we are now facing were started and dealt with by those who were in office long before Trump and this latest group were elected.
I do not think there are any Conservatives left. Oh we have those who fly that banner, but unless they have 60 votes in the Senate, we might as well have nothing. Until you can change the numbers to defeat the amount of liberals in the Senate we can do nothing, absolutely nothing. Blaming Trump, blaming Obama (who was onboard with the liberal agenda) you are doing nothing but blowing hot air.
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So now you are AGAINST blame-laying on Democrats?Blaming Trump, blaming Obama (who was onboard with the liberal agenda) you are doing nothing but blowing hot air.
I'll see how long that pose lasts.
Truly, the whiplash is dizzying around here.
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Are you and Fulltimer brothers, you two can sure come out with something that was never said and trying to put some oddball ideas into something that was never said.
Blaming Obama is more realistic because he had majority's in both houses and a majority in the Senate, with the help of a couple of RINO's.
They, both sides, have had decades if not longer to forge alliances and come up with backroom deals that pay dividends to either party for swaying or voting one way or another. Trump had just about ALL of Congress in an uproar, so we can tell that he was not going to have his way like Obama did.
Politics is no longer what it used to be, where two people with an open mind, could sit down and decide what was best for ALL of the American people. Now it is nothing but party and agenda, the system is broken and can no longer be fixed without a major overhaul. Term limits are desperately needed, the animals in Congress have forgotten what their job is.
I am blaming every single one of them that has been in office longer than one term.Period.
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Allow me to quote you in this very thread:
Sure sounds as if you are against blame-laying. But hey, that was a few posts ago. Things change. I guess you are just following the example of yer boy Trump, who is for something one day, against it the next.Blaming Trump, blaming Obama (who was onboard with the liberal agenda) you are doing nothing but blowing hot air.
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