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    At long last

    Pushed off to the Treasury Department but finally we are going to confront (and admit) the reality most of us knew:
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    The White House has announced sanctions against Russia over the "most destructive and costly cyber-attack in history."

    The US government announced these sanctions on Thursday morning, calling out several Russian hacking efforts over recent years, including the Russian propaganda campaign, Yahoo's massive hacks and attempted cyberattacks against electrical grids in the US.

    The most critical cyberattack listed for Russia's sanctions was NotPetya, a malware designed to destroy data disguised as ransomware. The Trump administration attributed the attack to Russia on February 15, and said it caused billions of dollars in damage in Europe, Asia and the Americas.

    The sanctions come from the Treasury Department against multiple entities in Russia. The investigation came from the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI. Sanctions include blocking assets from Russia's intelligence services.

    Investigators also announced on Thursday that they've found evidence of Russian attempts to hack into the US electric grid through spear-phishing tactics.
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    Did he do good? Just wondering if he would ever get a attaboy from anyone here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy_Rightwing View Post
    Did he do good? Just wondering if he would ever get a attaboy from anyone here.
    Why did it come from the Treasury Department and not Mr Trump?
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    ^^^
    Did you forget the mantra, Dave — “Everything and anything any part of the Administration does is at the president’s hands.”
    Oh, I forgot the corollary of the mantra there for a moment — “unless it is a good thing.”
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    ...of course----and that is why the spy response was led by Ms Haley. At this point, I really don't give a damn where it comes from as long as we do what we need to do.
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    ^^^
    Did you forget the mantra, Dave — “Everything and anything any part of the Administration does is at the president’s hands.”
    Oh, I forgot the corollary of the mantra there for a moment — “unless it is a good thing.”
    I'm a dumbly for sure, had to look up corollary (A practical consequence that follows naturally) you guys are smarter than me.
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    Unwillingly we go forth:

    Before leaving office, President Barack Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats, seized a pair of diplomatic properties and imposed sanctions in response to the election interference. But, until Thursday, Mr. Trump’s administration had refused to follow suit. While his administration has sanctioned some Russians for human rights abuses or for the intervention in Ukraine, the measures announced on Thursday represented the first time Mr. Trump’s administration took action on the meddling, and it acted only after Congress passed nearly unanimously legislation meant to force his hand.

    The sanctions targeted the same Russian organizations and operatives identified by Mr. Mueller in an indictment that outlined an audacious attempt to spread disinformation and propaganda to disrupt American democracy and, eventually, influence the vote on behalf of Mr. Trump. The sanctions also responded to other cyberattacks, including a previously unconfirmed attempt to penetrate the American energy grid.

    “The administration is confronting and countering malign Russian cyberactivity, including their attempted interference in U.S. elections, destructive cyberattacks, and intrusions targeting critical infrastructure,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a statement. “These targeted sanctions are a part of a broader effort to address the ongoing nefarious attacks emanating from Russia.”
    I don't care the source or cause of the action---it is long past due
    "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity, an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty” ---Sir Winston Churchill
    "Political extremism involves two prime ingredients: an excessively simple diagnosis of the world's ills, and a conviction that there are identifiable villains back of it all." ---John W. Gardner
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    I'm guessing we have the same ability as they do, if so lets head in and thoroughly make a mess of things. Lets teach them how and what playing with our power qrid is capable of doing. We simply cannot allow this to continue. Screw the PC scared stuff and lets get on with business. Part of their messing with the power grid has to do with our nuclear reactors, one ability is to shut down cooling . That's a maybe, I got one article on my phone that said they could and another that said they couldn't.
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    Nothing is a given but in the case of grid security as well as individual plant electronic data security that is primarily in the hands of the grid managers---in my case PJM Interconnection.

    They have an auditing oversight by a third party (sorry I forget the name) that is constantly reviewing procedures, methods and system redundancy to be as proactive as possible in preventing any incursion--apparently to now they have succeeded in frustrating the bad guys.

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    I am now reading that there are signs that they have penetrated these systems and could have taken over control. That is possible since my information is from the inside of only one grid manager. That is very serious stuff---and not something we can continue to deny or ignore.
    Last edited by Dave Grubb; 03-16-2018 at 08:59 AM.
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    Just tell Vladimir that after the election I'll have more flexibility
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    I have found that with Trump, if you focus on the actual policies, instead of his personal antics, you get a much different perspective on his Presidency.

    It ain't all bad.

    It looks as if the media wants Trump to say "uncle" but he won't. Never gonna happen no matter what. But important stuff IS happening and it isn't all bad. These sanctions would not have been implemented without his approval so good for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    I have found that with Trump, if you focus on the actual policies, instead of his personal antics, you get a much different perspective on his Presidency.

    It ain't all bad.

    It looks as if the media wants Trump to say "uncle" but he won't. Never gonna happen no matter what. But important stuff IS happening and it isn't all bad. These sanctions would not have been implemented without his approval so good for us.
    Don't know know why I feel the need to answer you, you said so much so quickly is probably what got me confused. As far as I'm concerned you hit the nail on the head every time. The left focus on his antics making him bad the right try to focus on the good. Nothing much is really all bad it just depends on how you look at it most times.
    Trump saying; "Uncle, Sorry, your right I'm wrong," NEVER! I agree; "No matter what!"
    And thank you for affirming that Trump still had to OK the sanctions.
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