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    The 2nd Admendment


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    The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    Militia is the subject of that sentence.

    Everyone keeping and bearing arms should be a member of a well-regulated militia.

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    When that was written and within its meaning, the people, including you & me, were the militia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    When that was written and within its meaning, the people, including you & me, were the militia.
    Today we consider folks like Adam Lanza, Stephen Paddock, Dylan Roof, Omar Mateen, Nikolas Cruz, and James Holmes also well-regulated militia members.

    We seem to be remiss in the well-regulated part.

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    No they are crazy madmen, part of the very reason the rest of us get to own weapons. The people were granted the right to keep weapons in case the govt was corrupt and was trying to take the rights away from the people, so they could defend themselves.

    And also as Waco stated, we were the militia and the people's right to bear arms was not to be infringed, by anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenis View Post
    The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    Militia is the subject of that sentence.

    Everyone keeping and bearing arms should be a member of a well-regulated militia.
    You should sue your high school English teacher, Don..."The right of the people to keep and bear Arms" is the subject of the sentence..."Shall not be infringed" is the predicate..."A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" makes the sentence a complete thought......Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    No they are crazy madmen, part of the very reason the rest of us get to own weapons. The people were granted the right to keep weapons in case the govt was corrupt and was trying to take the rights away from the people, so they could defend themselves.

    And also as Waco stated, we were the militia and the people's right to bear arms was not to be infringed, by anybody.

    Ahh, so I understand. It is an individual's Constitutional right to defend himself from those government agents trying to take away his rights.

    Now, you do understand that person would be trying to kill police officers, federal agents, or since President Bush effectively repealed the Posse Comitatus Act in 2006, US military soldiers.

    So Blue Lives Matter and Support The Troops is not one of your positions?

    Thus far every person that killed a federal officer or a police officer performing his duty has not exactly been considered a patriot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckman View Post
    You should sue your high school English teacher, Don..."The right of the people to keep and bear Arms" is the subject of the sentence..."Shall not be infringed" is the predicate..."A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" makes the sentence a complete thought......Ben
    So who are the well-regulated militia? Is it everyone possessing weapons? Is it possible to restrict who owns weapons or even what kind of weapons under your definition of the 2nd Amendment?

    I think we are getting into that area WacoJoe was referring to where he said that I said anyone should be able to have shoulder-fired missiles if the 2nd was absolute in that definition.

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    We should just give up Ben, his mind is severely twisted and can not understand easy intent or english. He keeps finding words and phrases that were never said and so badly twists what we say, that it is just not worth the effort. Just like old times, he twists and turns and keeps throwing out more rubbish to where a person can not hold an intelligent conversation.

    I'm not falling for the minefield anymore than I already have. I think the meds have taken their toll over the years.

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    James, we're all familiar with Don's modus operandi...It'll never change...That's why he's so easily recognizable when he comes back with a different username...But even here he's served his own purpose because we've made him the topic instead of the 2A...My, how clever he is...I say back to topic......Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckman View Post
    James, we're all familiar with Don's modus operandi...It'll never change...That's why he's so easily recognizable when he comes back with a different username...But even here he's served his own purpose because we've made him the topic instead of the 2A...My, how clever he is...I say back to topic......Ben
    I am still discussing the topic of the 2nd Amendment. You guys are wanting to discuss me. That seems to be the normal MO when you get backed into a corner.
    When the personal attacks start that lets me know I have won that particular point.

    That's OK I'm amenable to any discussion and have never been thin-skinned or easily insulted.

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    Well as the man in the video pointed out, it is not a good idea to let the Govt handle everything, they usually make it worse and then you have an even bigger problem. I think that is why the founding fathers gave the govt a set of rules to follow and gave us the 2nd to insure that they do not overstep their bounds too far.

    The people are guaranteed the ability to take back their govt should tyranny and corruption overtake it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    Well as the man in the video pointed out, it is not a good idea to let the Govt handle everything, they usually make it worse and then you have an even bigger problem. I think that is why the founding fathers gave the govt a set of rules to follow and gave us the 2nd to insure that they do not overstep their bounds too far.

    The people are guaranteed the ability to take back their govt should tyranny and corruption overtake it.
    Do you really think you can overpower even the local police force much less the power of the United States Military with the weapons you are allowed to "keep and bear"?

    You ever stick your hand in a fire ant bed?

    The only practical way to overthrow a corrupt government is at the ballot box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenis View Post
    The only practical way to overthrow a corrupt government is at the ballot box.
    You're right of course, Don...Look how well that worked out in 1776......Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenis View Post
    So who are the well-regulated militia? Is it everyone possessing weapons? Is it possible to restrict who owns weapons or even what kind of weapons under your definition of the 2nd Amendment?

    I think we are getting into that area WacoJoe was referring to where he said that I said anyone should be able to have shoulder-fired missiles if the 2nd was absolute in that definition.
    Now that’s the side Don’s mouth I remember. No nuance absolutism born from a severe distrust of the government which abused him in Dallas the day Kennedy was shot. What happened to that guy? Hidden behind the provocateur, I suppose.
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