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    I just want to know when Trump was interviewed by a federal prosecutor, you know, the source of your accusation. Don't try to get away with the NYT way of saying "unnamed sources" because I will call BS on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    I just want to know when Trump was interviewed by a federal prosecutor, you know, the source of your accusation. Don't try to get away with the NYT way of saying "unnamed sources" because I will call BS on it.
    What?

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    When was Trump interviewed by a prosecutor about this, where he lied? I must have missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    When was Trump interviewed by a prosecutor about this, where he lied? I must have missed it.
    I think you have misread the topic. The person meeting with the Russians was Betsy DeVoss' brother, Eric Prince.

    Sorry for the confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabe View Post
    Why would he need a back door channel to the Russians if all that collusion was going on?
    I have been thinking about Rush's question all day and TxMusky's question of why would the President need a back channel to Russia when he has a direct one sitting on his desk.

    That and Jared Kushner and the Russian Ambassador discussing setting up a secure communication channel between Trump and Putin using the Russian diplomatic facilities makes for a strange set of events.

    The most secure communications in the world are through the United States intelligence and diplomatic networks.

    I'm afraid I cannot answer the questions of why but it will be interesting to find that one out.

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    But this happened AFTER Trump had won the election. He already had a secure way to talk to Putin if he needed to call him. This whole thing is nothing but more of the "boogie man" BS. For that matter, I am sure that most world leaders have cell phones and they could call directly to each other just as easily as i could call my wife. Again, nothing about the super secretive makes an sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    But this happened AFTER Trump had won the election. He already had a secure way to talk to Putin if he needed to call him. This whole thing is nothing but more of the "boogie man" BS. For that matter, I am sure that most world leaders have cell phones and they could call directly to each other just as easily as i could call my wife. Again, nothing about the super secretive makes an sense.
    As I said, that is a very good question, Why the secret meeting in Seychelles and why was Kushner and Flynn meeting with the Russian Ambassador to set up a secret secure line of communication between the President and Putin through Russia's intelligence channels?

    With George Nader, the adviser to the United Arab Emirates who was at the Seychelles meeting, cooperating with Mueller’s probe, I think those questions may soon be answered.

    You ask some good questions TxMusky.

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    It is not illegal to be talking to a person from another Country last I heard.

    Me thinks somebody is trying to make a "there" out of nothing much. That is as silly as accusing Sessions of having a meeting to help Trump, when he was A) in his office at work and B) the Obama people had arranged the meeting. Even sillier is accusing him of a nefarious meeting in a public hall, in front of God and everybody at a convention.

    DO you also think that Obama sitting at a table with Mededev and saying, I will have more leeway after the election, would fall into that same court? And after that Ukraine was invaded?

    You liberals have the heebie-jeebies over nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    It is not illegal to be talking to a person from another Country last I heard.

    Me thinks somebody is trying to make a "there" out of nothing much. That is as silly as accusing Sessions of having a meeting to help Trump, when he was A) in his office at work and B) the Obama people had arranged the meeting. Even sillier is accusing him of a nefarious meeting in a public hall, in front of God and everybody at a convention.

    DO you also think that Obama sitting at a table with Mededev and saying, I will have more leeway after the election, would fall into that same court? And after that Ukraine was invaded?

    You liberals have the heebie-jeebies over nothing.
    Well, you were the one that asked the question

    Now Rachel Maddow is asking yours and Rush's questions as well. Are you corresponding with her on her hotline at http://www.nbcnews.com/id/55557152 ?

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    It wasn’t Tex that fist broached the question here, “Why would Trump need a backdoor channel if he had been colluding all along?” That was Wannabe in #13 above. Credit where credit is due. Of course that question was asked way back when allegations were made by the same cast of characters aimed at Kurshner and Kelly even before the inauguration. There was no satisfactory answer to the obvious conflict of wild allegations of collusion then or now either. TDS knows no bounds attached to logic.

    Somebody remotely connected to Trump or his campaign meets a Russian in a bar at the ends of the earth, so obviously there must be a conspiracy and treason involved. Do you people have any idea how nuts that sounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    It wasn’t Tex that fist broached the question here, “Why would Trump need a backdoor channel if he had been colluding all along?” That was Wannabe in #13 above. Credit where credit is due. Of course that question was asked way back when allegations were made by the same cast of characters aimed at Kurshner and Kelly even before the inauguration. There was no satisfactory answer to the obvious conflict of wild allegations of collusion then or now either. TDS knows no bounds attached to logic.

    Somebody remotely connected to Trump or his campaign meets a Russian in a bar at the ends of the earth, so obviously there must be a conspiracy and treason involved. Do you people have any idea how nuts that sounds?
    Wannabe was simply asking the same question Rush Limbaugh did a short time earlier on his show. TxMusky asked why should the President need a back channel when he had a telephone on his desk that he could use to call Putin.

    I am stumped.

    The only rational answer I can come up with is President Trump does not trust the vast American Intelligence network, the US State Department, or the Department of Justice.

    He trusts Russia more.

    But, as I said earlier, With George Nader, the adviser to the United Arab Emirates who was at the Seychelles meeting, cooperating with Mueller’s probe, I think those questions may soon be answered.

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    The rational answer is that you have jumped to the wrong conclusion that Trump tried to set up a back channel to Putin through a guy in a bar in Africa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    The rational answer is that you have jumped to the wrong conclusion that Trump tried to set up a back channel to Putin through a guy in a bar in Africa.

    Maybe it was something completely different and unknown to us at this time.

    We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    The rational answer is that you have jumped to the wrong conclusion that Trump tried to set up a back channel to Putin through a guy in a bar in Africa.
    That would be my guess as well. ANd then he tries to slide another lie in there with the "He trusts Russia more" phrase.

    Poor liberals create their own anxiety, always trying to find stuff that really isnt there. I don't really feel special or different because I asked a question that Rush asked. To me it was just common sense, why go through all that trouble when a simple phone call from the phone in your pocket will suffice? Okay if you wanted to make it intriguing you could wander into some dark little pub around the corner, so it would feel like you are sneaking around.....really people, just really?

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    The meeting in Seychelles was just before the meeting Jared Kushner and Michael Flynn had with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak attempting to set up a direct and secret communications channel between President-elect Trump and Russian President Putin using Russian intelligence communications system.

    In March 2017 the White House admitted the meeting took place after US Intelligence produced the communication intercepts between Kislyak and the Kremlin.
    With George Nader cooperating with the Mueller Investigation another part of the puzzle is in the hands of the Special Prosecutor.

    The question is, why would the Administration want a secret backchannel communications link with Putin when he can go through existing channels?

    Does he not trust American diplomatic and intelligence services?

    Why does he trust the Russians more than Americans?

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