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    Trump's Space Command

    “We should have a new force called the Space Force. It’s like the Army and the Navy, but for space, because we’re spending a lot of money on space.”
    ---Donald Trump---

    Let's explore that just a bit.

    We can start with the 10th Amendment to the Constitution known as the Supremacy Clause. It has been knocked around on here quite a lot lately.

    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
    Now, I understand President Trump does not really believe in the Constitution or any treaties as such as NAFTA, NATO, or any of the others he is striving to violate, still the Constitution....

    So, let us now look at one of those treaties as it concerns a "Space Force".

    http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwor...acetreaty.html

    The Outer Space Treaty was considered by the Legal Subcommittee in 1966 and agreement was reached in the General Assembly in the same year ( resolution 2222 (XXI)). The Treaty was largely based on the Declaration of Legal Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, which had been adopted by the General Assembly in its resolution 1962 (XVIII) in 1963, but added a few new provisions. The Treaty was opened for signature by the three depository Governments (the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States of America) in January 1967, and it entered into force in October 1967. The Outer Space Treaty provides the basic framework on international space law, including the following principles:

    the exploration and use of outer space shall be carried out for the benefit and in the interests of all countries and shall be the province of all mankind;
    outer space shall be free for exploration and use by all States;
    outer space is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means;
    States shall not place nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction in orbit or on celestial bodies or station them in outer space in any other manner;

    the Moon and other celestial bodies shall be used exclusively for peaceful purposes;
    astronauts shall be regarded as the envoys of mankind;
    States shall be responsible for national space activities whether carried out by governmental or non-governmental entities;
    States shall be liable for damage caused by their space objects; and
    States shall avoid harmful contamination of space and celestial bodies.
    So, has the President now decided that treaty no longer applies?

    Now, right across the field from my houe is the US Airforce Space Command.

    They are not like the Navy or the Army as they have no weapons in space. So where is Dear President going with this?

    He did say he would be putting Marines on Mars, so....
    Last edited by Fulltimer; 03-14-2018 at 01:33 AM.

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    Name a city, capital or country in space, to define who to make a treaty with.
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    Has a treaty ever been ended because it was outdated? Has any country ever broken a treaty before?

    You seem to worry to much about things that are at most a dream and at the very least a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMusky View Post
    Has a treaty ever been ended because it was outdated? Has any country ever broken a treaty before?

    You seem to worry to much about things that are at most a dream and at the very least a joke.
    The President is a very dangerous "joke" so yes, I do worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenis View Post
    The President is a very dangerous "joke" so yes, I do worry about it.
    Sometimes I think your post should be in the Joke -satire section.

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    Colorado Springs....home to Space Force....just change the freaking name already......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dork View Post
    Colorado Springs....home to Space Force....just change the freaking name already......
    I suppose for some reason the Pentagon has elected to withhold the existence of the Air Force Space Command at Peterson AFB from our Dear President.



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    Let’s assume the president was not joking in his usual manner. The part of the treaty quoted above does not foreclose a “Space Force,” apparently from the wording it prohibits weapons of mass destruction and attempts to claim National sovereignty, neither of which was proposed in Trump’s off-hand comment offered.

    Another lost leader and troll in which I am dutifully wallowing like a moron. Boring day for both of us, I guess.
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    It's a democrat conspiracy.....the left wing rebellious progressive reptiles are denying him the needed information to preside over his kingdom....

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenis View Post
    I suppose for some reason the Pentagon has elected to withhold the existence of the Air Force Space Command at Peterson AFB from our Dear President.



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