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    I hear what you are saying 2T but this one smells of being opportunistic.... If it was such a dramatic damaging hug, why wait until it's cool and profitable to make the allegations?

    Just to be sure you know where I stand... This is the ONLY accusation I question out of the wrath of accusations coming out lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    I hear what you are saying 2T but this one smells of being opportunistic.... If it was such a dramatic damaging hug, why wait until it's cool and profitable to make the allegations?

    Just to be sure you know where I stand... This is the ONLY accusation I question out of the wrath of accusations coming out lately.
    lets be clearer, its not cool to stand up and recount these experiences

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    By permission from the author ...


    DON'T PRETEND TO BE SUDDENLY OUTRAGED!


    One never knows the dark secrets one might keep to themselves. I liked Charlie Rose, but what he did has darkened my respect for him. Nevertheless, I feel that in a way he was a victim too. Our society has for way too long allowed misogynistic behavior to be accepted as normal. Allowed it to exist at a level that was impossible to fight against, by neither reason nor by law. Rose grew up during a time when such behavior was not only allowed, but sometimes even encouraged or expected. It is hypocrisy for everyone to be suddenly enraged about misogynistic behavior, we all KNEW it was going on, and yet no one stood up to it except for a few brave women who were often thrown to the media wolves.
    I think what we are seeing today, with the outing of so many high profile men, is the backlash of what women have been feeling after the outcome of this election. For too long women have been fighting a system that has been against them because of religion, culture and their own biology to suddenly have everything they fought for threatened. For progress had been made on all these fronts with a great deal of patience, perseverance and sacrifice.
    Women accepted the occasional ceding of acceptance in leadership roles, the membership in exclusive clubs and allowance of rights by male partners to participate in the workplace, as slow, careful stepping stones to a better and brighter future for them and their daughters.
    And then comes Trump.
    Suddenly, women recognize that everything they have worked so hard and disparately for, everything they have quietly and silently endured for so long to just manage one more step up the rungs of the business ladder, and everything they had hoped for in the future was just then shoved to the bottom of the heap with an election that clearly made it known that destroying the hopes and aspirations of half the population was the price we were willing to pay for the promise of a few jobs, a wall, more guns and repeal of "Obama" care. All promises that even if they could be carried out would have far reaching consequences down the road.
    So yes, Charlie Rose will pay the price. And many others will follow - both men and women. DON'T PRETEND TO BE SUDDENLY OUTRAGED! Be proactive, stand up against misogyny, speak out!

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    Ahhh! The new "Bush Did It." Now, whatever Lefties find wrong, "Trump is responsible." That's the ticket.
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    don't make the mistake of thinking you can distract from this Sea Change

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Ahhh! The new "Bush Did It." Now, whatever Lefties find wrong, "Trump is responsible." That's the ticket.
    Trump was simply the finger in the dyke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly Goodnight View Post
    Trump was simply the finger in the dyke
    No actually Trump is just a hashtag for anything to symbolize anything negative to left-wing movements.
    OPINION....a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

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    As Obama was to the right wing. We are hosed as a country with our current inability to agree on anything politically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndthyme View Post
    this is what seems to be confusing to some but not at all to me. A woman knows the difference between accidental touching and sexual touching. Obviously if Mr Keillor realized at the time there was reason to apologize, he clearly did something to apologize for. If a woman suddenly finds herself in the very uncomfortable and shocking position of pretending her boss's hand isn't lingering on her in what is clearly an awkward testing of the waters.. Women caught off guard by this behavior and where it happens and from who it comes from.. are not prepared to rebuke, this is not a sweaty nightclub. So she assures him it's ok.. but it's not, she is alone and instinct tells her to smooth things over and get away. The shame and humiliation felt by a woman who suddenly realized she does not have the respect of this man... hurts and it festers, even as she tries to put it behind her and forget it.. The idea that someone you likely considered a mentor, sought approval and advice from, thought he respected your mind, was looking at you as a an option to f*ck is where the damage is. long term damage
    I totally agree with all of that and understand exactly what your saying! The problem is we don't have a clue as to what either one of them was thinking or felt.
    This is your mind on drugs!

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