all signs point to the FBI having substantial info on the Russian connection

[2ndthyme]

And yet the 1st person to utter Page's name was Donald himself. A year ago, he answered questions by the editorial board of wapo, listing his foreign policy advisors including someone no one had ever heard of, Carter Page PHD. Evidently Trump didn't know much about the guy as he didn't expound on what his credentials were, but certainly he knew the name as someone advising him.

[2ndthyme]

No quid pro quo? Who did This? And why? https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...256_story.html

[wacojoe]

Besides the infamous dossier on Trump that started it all, the anti-Trump forces suffering from fused brains infected with terminal Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) have latched on to a new source for their conspiracy theories. Look for mention of that new source, Louise Mensch, a former Conservative Member of the British Parliament who has totally gone off the deep end on the blame/hate Trump scale —

...Mensch...has shown a proclivity to blame — often without any evidence — almost any negative event in the world on Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence services. The jihadist bombing of a German soccer team’s bus? She blames Russia. The 2014 Ferguson riots that spawned the Black Lives Matter movement? Mensch blames Russia. Democrats failing to score a huge upset in the special election for Georgia’s 6th District? Mensch blames Russia. Low African-American turnout for Hillary Clinton? It wasn’t Hillary’s fault, Mensch says — it was Russia’s. The 15-year-old girl with whom serial pervert Anthony Weiner traded explicit messages? That was actually a Russian plot personally ordered by Putin, if you take Mensch’s word for it. The 2013 death of conservative media figure Andrew Breitbart? Mensch said she “absolutely” believes Putin was behind it.

Nevertheless, prominent liberals have continued to promote Mensch and her work.

On Wednesday, DNC spokeswoman Adrienne Watson promoted a Mensch theory, unsupported by any hard evidence, that Russia has compromising material on Republican Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz. Watson used Mensch’s theory to suggest that Chaffetz isn’t running for re-election in 2018 because of dirt Russia holds on him. (RELATED: DNC Spokeswoman Promotes Theory That Russia Has Dirt On Chaffetz)

Ned Price, a former Obama White House staffer, shared a link to a story on left-wing website the Palmer Report that also claimed Russia has compromising information on Chaffetz.

The Palmer Report, which was recently mentioned in a story in The Atlantic about “fake news aimed at liberals,” used one source for the story: Mensch.

Obama adviser Eric Schultz chimed in on Twitter, saying of the Palmer Report’s story, “too bad nobody flagged this earlier.”

Liberal media sources have promoted Mensch’s work as well.

Keith Olbermann, the former MSNBC host now hosting a web show for GQ Magazine — “The Resistance” — promoted another Mensch theory on Tuesday.

Olbermann quoted a part of Mensch’s story that read, “Sources with links to the intelligence community say it is believed that Carter Page went to Moscow in early July carrying with him a pre-recorded tape of Donald Trump offering to change American policy to make it more favorable to Putin. In exchange, Page was authorized directly by Trump to request the help of the Russian government in hacking the election.”

Olbermann did his best to promote the theory on Twitter, tweeting out the video segment 38 times over two days.

MSNBC has invited Mensch on as a guest several times since Trump’s inauguration, presenting her as a credible source. She appeared on MSNBC as recently as last month. (RELATED: MSNBC Panelist Spouts Loony Conspiracy Theories On The Internet)

Just last month, The New York Times devoted space to running a Mensch op-ed about Russian hacking...

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/19/li...sia-narrative/

With source like this fake news gets a bad name.

[2ndthyme]

Never heard of her, Olberman isn't really in the news biz and caller is just trying to distract

[wacojoe]

Never heard of her, Olberman isn't really in the news biz and caller is just trying to distract

The New York Times is in the news business.

[TxMusky]

Does not matter who is "officially" in the news business, all they need is something, even a Hollyweird movie star to spread rumors and lies an it generates all sorts of red meat for the loony left to digest and propagate. Politicians propagate BS all of the time and the public buys it as truth, so having news credentials means absolutely nothing. The New York Times is probably more of a BS spreader than most of the others combined, just because it USED to be a legitimate news organization. Now days it is just an agenda driven supermarket tabloid that prints stories based solely on whatever agenda the editors are pushing.

MSNBC is as laughable as that idiot Jon Stewart who ran the Comedy Central fake news show. You would be surprised at how many of the loony left believe that garbage as truth.

[Dave Grubb]

The New York Times is in the news business.

What a hoot---Louise Mensch (based on a search of the NYT) has had one Op-Ed published. You boys spend far too much time listening to and parroting the talking heads on the margin.

Last time I checked an Op-Ed means:

An op-ed (originally short for "opposite the editorial page" although often taken to stand for "opinion editorial") is a written prose piece typically published by a newspaper or magazine which expresses the opinion of a named author usually not affiliated with the publication's editorial board.[1] Op-eds are different from both editorials (opinion pieces submitted by editorial board members) and letters to the editor (opinion pieces submitted by readers).

There are those in this world that are neither offended or threatened by other's (and possibly differing) opinions and they also know how to evaluate those opinions.

[TxMusky]

Wow one story throws cold water on a couple of the LIbs big rants. They seemed to think that Trump would be helping his Exxon buddy and also be in bed with the Russians. Does not seem like he is near the sell out that he was made out to be.

WASHINGTON — Exxon Mobil (XOM) will not be granted a waiver allowing it to resume drilling around the Black Sea in partnership with Russian state-owned Rosneft, the U.S. Treasury Department announced Friday.
The decision is the latest indication that the White House is backing away from statements by then-presidential candidate Donald Trump during the 2016 campaign that he would relax sanctions imposed on Russia by Barack Obama’s administration.
“In consultation with President Donald J. Trump, the Treasury Department will not be issuing waivers to U.S. companies, including Exxon, authorizing drilling prohibited by current Russian sanctions,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a statement Friday.
Exxon was blocked in 2014 from participating in the multi-billion dollar deal when the U.S. imposed the sanctions — which bar Russian investment in U.S. holdings and limit the ability of American companies to invest in Russia — after Russia annexed the Ukrainian territory of Crimea.
Exxon said in a statement to CBS News that “we understand” Mnuchin’s decision, but added that it applied for the waiver because some of its European competition is not barred from doing similar work in Russia.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/exxon-ru...eft-black-sea/

ANd it is even reported by one of the big liberal media outlets.....wonder how those words are tasting now?

[2ndthyme]

?mmmmmmm

[Dave Grubb]

You have to try harder to keep up here James---the NYT reported that on April, 21, 2017

[wacojoe]

Actually, the biggest indication there was no direct collusion between Trump and Putin is what Trump is NOT doing in Russia's most important financial interest — the worldwide price of oil & gas. Just about the only thing Russia has to sell besides military goods, and certainly the MOST IMPORTANT THING BY FAR, is their hydrocarbons. The U.S. hydrocarbons products derived from fracking, oil & gas, has been the key factor in driving down Russia's most vital source of funds and any quid-pro-quo exchange for help from Russia with the campaign would focus first and foremost on Trump stemming the flow of that source on the world's market. Can the Democrats point to any hint Trump is helping Russia where it really counts, the price of oil & gas?

The only people trying to interrupt fracking are the Democrats themselves. Follow the money.

If Trump suddenly announces that he has seen the light and has decided to reverse his stance on fracking, and especially on public lands, then I will start to take the Trump/Russia connection narrative seriously. If not, it remains a cruel joke.

[TxMusky]

You have to try harder to keep up here James---the NYT reported that on April, 21, 2017

That is when I first reported it as well, check the date of the post.

Waco, the Dems are trying to interrupt anything and everything that does not fit into their agenda. IT does not matter to them if some of the things they are for and against are hypocritical even to them, but their followers are too brainwashed to care. They just rant against one thing the first day and rave for it the second day.

[wacojoe]

James, just keep doing God's Work fracking your little ass off and sticking it to the Rooskies/Muzzies/Venezuelan Commies cartel. Things will work out, while the D's are still trying to figure out what went wrong.

[TxMusky]

We are doing that, drilling programs are all set and now the rush is on to schedule rigs. Plenty of vertical rigs to go around but now all the producers want to drill is horizontals. Those beasts are not quite as abundant, but that is good for drilling side.

[Dave Grubb]

That is when I first reported it as well, check the date of the post.

I didn't realize we had become that disjointed in this thread----you can go out for recess now