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    Let's just put it out there what all of this really is,
    the liberals are still smarting over their disastrous defeat of Hilliary,
    Blacks are seeing that they are finally being recognized and heard
    the growing acceptance of Trump after his first big speech to Congress,
    the advances he has already made in keeping his campaign promises, after all, he only has to try to push the agenda through
    the publics disgust with the protests and whining
    the upturn in the stock market, signaling more jobs

    The left is being exposed for the fakes and frauds that they really always have been and their feeble attempts to govern is out there for all to see. They have squandered their last 8 years with frivolous things that have basically all failed. All of the things the Dems are complaining about they did not bother to change fix or do anything about during the last 8 years of Obama reign. Their signature healthcare plan is collapsing and they have to divert attention away from their massive failures in the job markets, tax burdens and low wages.

    This is typical liberal BS, they have no other means of garnering attention other than to whine, complain and point fingers. They do not have the willingness, the experience nor the ability to govern and it is becoming glaringly apparent to more and more Americans on a daily basis. You notice that the media and our own in house economics guru has not posted his usual uptick in the employment numbers nor the records set by the stock markets skyrocketing to more higher gains. This is the last ditch effort that the Dems need to work, to tarnish a Trump admin that is making good on the things he said he would do. They are failing fast, their base is switching sides and they are going to be in for another round of Repub defeats if they do not keep the public focused on silly things. They themselves know that there is no credible evidence that the Trump campaign sanctioned the Russians to interfere with the elections, nor has anybody shown where even one vote was changed due to the so-called hacks. Maybe the MSM should have paid more attention to the investigation of the illegal Hilliary server and the breaking of laws and rules that she herself committed. If the Obama admin and the liberal media would have done their investigating, maybe they could have gotten that corrupt windbag out of the way and let a real candidate run. Of course that would have left just the Bernster and he was only going to get the crackpot vote, real people that can add and subtract knew that the things he was proposing would never work. This whole fiasco happened because Hilliary and her ties to the party screwed the pooch for them. Place blame where it is due and quit playing political games and get back to running the Country like you were elected to do.

    This is all a ruse, a smokescreen that they are trying to use that their time has come and gone and they are all going to be jobless and out of power soon. Childish behavior from supposedly grown smart people.

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    It gets more into context when the entire question is shown, of course the liberal rags do not do that though...
    Franken: "CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week that included information that quote, ‘Russian operatives claimed to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.’ These documents also allegedly say quote, ‘There was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump's surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.’
    "Now, again, I'm telling you this as it's coming out, so you know. But if it's true, it's obviously extremely serious and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?"


    Sessions: "Senator Franken, I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn't have — did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it."
    Sessions and spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores have said his statement was truthful because he met with the Russian ambassador in his capacity as a senator, not as a Trump campaign surrogate.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...anken-about-m/
    Add to the fact that the Obama bunch left clues all over the place about this issue, it looks like a complete setup. What better way to frame the Trump bunch and yet rejoice in your enemy Clinton losing the election. Talk about killing two birds with one stone. But it does not sueprise me about the liberal media and the whiny brat liberals getting spanked. ANyway, he has recused himself so the wind is gone from their sails again.

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    TX, nice talking points but NO, no one is smarting over the loss. Hillery has gone home..

    This is about a foreign country , our enemy, trying to control the outcomes of our elections. Which EVERYONE should be concerned about and calling for investigations... but no, some on the right,, well most, are actually pretty pleased to be the recipients of a gift horse and are purposely trying to do anything but look it in the mouth. It's actually creepy that our crazy POTUS thinks this is about de-legitimatizing him and can't fathom why anyone would be concerned. wtf

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    Would that be what the Israelis thought when Obama's crew teamed up with Soros and came to town in their last election openly trying their best to defeat Netanyahu? Of course Bibi did not lose so his crew did not embark on an endless spate of whining and knashing of teeth with spy secrets thrown out for good measure as cream on the top of their little tantrum pudding.
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    This is about a foreign country , our enemy, trying to control the outcomes of our elections.
    Then why did Hilliary sell them all of that Uranium??? You go from mocking Romney for talking about the Russian problem, to now all concerned about it.?? The same Country tried to hack into both parties, yet only the Dems got hacked. Seems like the DNC should be asking the RNC what kind of firewall and other protection they were using. Maybe there is a reason why you are not supposed to keep a private server in your basement and hire idiots that voluntarily give their passwords away in a phishing scam.

    The liberals went from kum ba yah to full retard in 4 years? People tried to tell you Hilliary was not the right one, but noooo, the left had to have their coronation. Her lawlessness and self righteousness got the best of her, her team got hacked, big deal get over it. SHOW ME where the Russians added or subtracted one single private vote or one single electoral vote for or against EITHER candidate. If you can not do that as a news service, a political candidate or a member of the FBI or any other law enforcement body investigating this case, this is all political sour grapes and a bunch of hogwash.

    Like Waco said, Obama himself had tried to affect the Israeli elections using taxpayer dollars, yet you and the rest of the libs remain silent? Now that the shoe was on the other foot is it wrong? Obama tried to affect the Brexit vote as well, campaigning for it, so can we assume that he had fixed all of America's problems well enough that he had time to meddle in foreign affairs? Maybe he should have spent that time instructing his own party on how to follow the rules about unauthorized servers, using protection against viruses and hacking and protecting his own party. This is all a big sham, brought upon themselves by allowing their own people to play outside the rules, not giving them a heads up about the dangers of hacking and warning the more stupid ones about giving people your password to your email account.

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    It's very difficult to bring people so dense they use "password" as their password up to speed and then are agape that they got hacked, James. You are arguing with a sign post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
    Would that be what the Israelis thought when Obama's crew teamed up with Soros and came to town in their last election openly trying their best to defeat Netanyahu? Of course Bibi did not lose so his crew did not embark on an endless spate of whining and knashing of teeth with spy secrets thrown out for good measure as cream on the top of their little tantrum pudding.
    and just like the "we do it too" answer to questions about Putin having ppl killed. Is this the New America? Going around excusing everything a foreign entity does to us as... shrugging, "well to be fair, we also do it?" Where is your "American exceptionalism"? please tell me what the howls of 'apology tour" were all about? So now nodding your head to a foreign leader is treacherous but actual espionage is "eh"

    this is amazing

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    Is this the New America? Going around excusing everything a foreign entity does to us as.
    Then why did Hilliary and Obama hit the "reset" button?? WHy was Hilliary allowed to lobby foreign govts using her foundation, why did she seel the Russian govt aka Putin 25 % of Americas uranium for a donation to the Clinton foundation? Why was she allowed to use an illegal server for her govt email acct and POTUS knew it?

    Liberals want to whine and complain about things, but it is hard to put the cows back in the pen.

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    I am still waiting for a pic of Trump and Putin... we have ones of all the Dems, hmmmm

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...new-york-city/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndthyme View Post
    and just like the "we do it too" answer to questions about Putin having ppl killed. Is this the New America? Going around excusing everything a foreign entity does to us as... shrugging, "well to be fair, we also do it?" Where is your "American exceptionalism"? please tell me what the howls of 'apology tour" were all about? So now nodding your head to a foreign leader is treacherous but actual espionage is "eh"

    this is amazing
    No, no. You have jumped from "the Russians interfered with our elections" because Obama's spooks told us so to "Trump helped the Russians interfere with our elections" without any factual proof what-so-ever just because you want to believe it. After all, how could Hillary lose without massive skullduggery and foreign interference? This is the limit of Democrat logic these days. Obama interfered with foreign elections without any doubt. Do you see the difference? My reference to the Israeli election ploy by Obama in no way indicates I approve of any possible Putin ploy here, and I definitely disapproved of Obama's meddling. It is an equivalence though, which you apparently choose to ignore. Now that is an amazing capacity for compensation and avoidance.

    Proof by innuendo — the Democrat way. Lord help us if we find a Trump official has eaten borscht in the last six months.
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    Oh damn, thats gonna leave a mark....
    Democrats were aghast after learning Attorney General Jeff Sessions met twice, as a senator, with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. without telling Congress at his confirmation hearing – but it turns out Sergey Kislyak is no stranger to lawmakers on both sides of the aisle.
    The longtime Russian ambassador met with seven then-Democratic senators in a single sit-down in 2013, among other discussions – and reportedly was a frequent visitor to the Obama White House.



    But some Sessions critics nevertheless portrayed meetings with Kislyak, whose country was accused of meddling in the 2016 campaign, as a rare summit, particularly for a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee like Sessions.
    The most forceful such statement came from Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., who tweeted that she had “been on the Armed Services Com for 10 years. No call or meeting w/Russian ambassador. Ever. Ambassadors call members of Foreign Rel Com.”
    That was quickly proven untrue.
    A pair of tweets first unearthed by National Review’s Charles C.W. Cooke showed McCaskill twice wrote messages about meetings with Kislyak, in 2013 and 2015.
    “Off to meeting w/Russian Ambassador. Upset about the arbitrary/cruel decision to end all U.S. adoptions, even those in process,” McCaskill tweeted on Jan. 30, 2013.
    On Aug. 6, 2015, McCaskill wrote: “Today calls with British, Russian, and German ambassadors re: Iran deal. #doingmyhomework.”
    McCaskill later blamed Twitter's character limit for the seeming disparity in her claims, suggesting the limit prevented her from being more specific in Thursday's tweet. She told The Weekly Standard there was “no contradiction,” and clarified she never had a “one-on-one meeting” with the ambassador.
    FactCheck.org still labeled McCaskill’s claim as “false.”


    Other Democratic senators in that meeting were: Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Maria Cantwell of Washington, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Jack Reed of Rhode Island, Robert Casey of Pennsylvania and Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island.
    Klobuchar said in a statement afterward that she was able to tell Kislyak the stories of families she met in Minnesota.Landrieu is no longer a senator after losing her seat in 2014.
    For longtime Washington officials, Kislyak would indeed be a familiar face. He’s been the ambassador to the U.S. since 2008, and served in various posts representing the former Soviet Union in the 1980s.
    “I’ve met with the Russian ambassador with a group, in my capacity, with a group of other senators,” Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., told CNN. “That’s in my official capacity. That’s nothing. That’s my job.”
    Republican Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, defending Sessions, said he’s spoken with the Russian ambassador as well.
    Meanwhile, The Daily Caller reported that Kislyak is listed as visiting the White House at least 22 times between 2009 and 2016. They likely were a mix of personal meetings and group visits. Roughly half of the visits involved broader receptions with other visitors.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...democrats.html
    Okay Dems, let's quit playing games and being stupid and get to work. THIS is why you have been losing seats in both Houses, given 33 governors posts and 2/3 of the State Congress seats to Repubs. You just need to do you job, if you can.

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    mmmm and those dems weren't running a campaign and denying those meeting after they learned there were questions involving Russian hacking?

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    Trump announces in a series of tweets, Obama had Trump Tower wire tapped before the election.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politi...eet/index.html

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...96746236182529

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    “I may have met him — possibly. It might have been in Cleveland.”

    That was former Donald Trump adviser Carter Page's tortured non-denial in response to MSNBC host Chris Hayes
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.82348db1314c

    Today had reported hours before that Page and another Trump adviser had met with Sergey Kislyak in July, despite Page's denial last month that he had met with Russian officials. And Page wasn't about to totally confirm it, citing the forum's desire for confidentiality.

    Page's situation echoes that of Sessions. He was asked on PBS in mid-February about contacts with Russian officials. Here's the exchange:

    JUDY WOODRUFF: Did you have any meetings — I will ask again — did you have any meetings last year with Russian officials in Russia, outside Russia, anywhere?

    PAGE: I had no meetings, no meetings.

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    Not only was Trump conspiring with Russians to attack Hillary, but it was such a humongous operation that everybody in the campaign down to low level people no one has ever heard of participated with voluminous meetings with every Russian around...yet not one scintilla of evidence of a conspiracy is available even though Obama's spooks were on the job tapping Trump's communications. Good job of burning the evidence vast right-wing Trump Conspiracy!

    To borrow a phrase from another scaaawy science fiction show - "It's out there!"

    Trump has himself to blame by saying maybe he could work with Putin and noting the incontestable truth observing that our nemesis "is a strong leader." When you are in opposition and have butkus to offer the electorate, these are the type of statements - true though they each may be - upon which a campaign in opposition can be founded. Suspicion and suggestion are your friends if you are low enough to use them.
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