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    The Brits had large plans for tidal power, but something put the kibosh on them and last I heard those plans were cancelled. I don't know why. The Bay of Funday, as you suggest, has always seemed a natural. Have you heard anything about the success of the New York project?
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    I only occasionally see something on the news, and now that I have gone to learn more I find I might have been wrong about the Hudson since I do not see anything on that. What I did find was on the East River----which is not really a river, rather it is a link between western Long Island Sound and the ocean. As such it has relatively high currents induced by tidal change.

    I did take a few minutes to see what I could find and I have to say at this point this technology remains a "potential" contributor.

    Below are three links, two on the Manhattan project (pun intended) and the third on a project in the Bay of Fundy:

    Hydrokinetic power from NY State.
    The East River Project.
    The Bay of Funday
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    I'll throw this one on the pile and see if it turns up later — something from the Fraunhofer Institute for Ceramic Technologies called the Fraunhofer Battery, oddly enough.

    http://newatlas.com/battery-stacking...ic-cars/49324/
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    Reports of longevity-capacity innovation for the devilish anode side of batteries promising to replace graphite with silicon —

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/20/1...y-polyrotaxane

    Problem: expensive production costs for now.
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    Man's scientific progress is unrelenting---and exciting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Grubb View Post
    Man's scientific progress is unrelenting---and exciting
    Just wish it were quicker with batteries...
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    Tiny crumpled graphene balls coated with lithium offer promise for new battery technology —

    https://newatlas.com/crumpled-graphe...tteries/53047/
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    Very interesting---thank you
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    One of these days - I hope soon - one or more of these technologies are going to hit with something dense, light & cheap and we will have the batteries we need. That is why I keep posting these projects, so when it happens, I can say I told you so.

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    It isn't a matter of if, only of when----but I beleive that will not come as a "revelation" but rather a progression. I would also expect that once viable commercialization takes hold as part of the power grid the advances will speed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacojoe View Post
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    Flat out exciting!
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    OK, this one is not a battery, but in many ways is more exciting. It is a fluid that directly absorbs sunlight, which changes its chemical composition thereby storing the energy long-term and can give back that energy in the form of heat when passed back through a catalyst. Apparently, the system is in its redimentary stages, but there is great promise. No mention of costs in the article though.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/scienti...p-sun-s-energy
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