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There's more to this than you've heard if the blog post below is correct.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...y-persecution/
Could the Feds be so callous and devious? I am waiting for their side of the story, but have no sympathy with the tactics making this issue come to light. It is a lengthy story, but I bet you will be interested as this confrontation plays out. It will be interesting to see how much of the background comes forward from Dave's MSM redoubts.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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The NYTs article on the "standoff," a fair appraisal, if not nearly as complete as the blog's above.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...gon-listy.html
In a sidebar it does mention that the men were convicted under an anti-domestic terrorist law for setting back-fires to control wildfires and improve ground cover, which jumped property lines into federal wilderness acreage.
The circumstances I am seeing here all seem to once again illustrate the old adage, "The law is an azs*," and I will add that a few of the people enforcing/using/abusing it are as well.
* alternate spelling to get around an overly intrusive and prudish board censor program
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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A$$ works just as well Joe.
By what stretch of your imagination do you think these guys should "occupy" closed public buildings?
Fred
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You are not reading me, Fred. I wrote, "...but, (I) have no sympathy for the tactics used making this issue come to to light..."Originally Posted by FredK
Still don't. Doesn't mean there was no wrong done the ranchers though.
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“You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.” — Too fundamental to have an attribution
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Oh hell yes! And now there will be a lot more people going to jail. You've obviously forgot about Waco? There was also some other well publicized incidents of the feds getting carried away. There is no evil alive stronger then that which is backed up by the United States government!! You lose and you will pay, with your life if necessary!!!Could the Feds be so callous and devious?
President Obama is aware of the refuge standoff, but said it is a "local law enforcement matter"
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This is your mind on drugs!
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A lot has to do with mismanagement of fed land. I'll agree there. Its going on here to in Washington also. All those forest fires costing millions. We will keep spending millions fighting fires due to forest mismanagement. I'm sure the ranchers in Ore. are dealing with the same type of mismanagement of fed land.
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I can not see the length of the jail time involved for burning a measly small acreage as being justified. Why is this even an issue? Could it be that most of the people in charge of public offices have no common sense at all? When you can burn a town down like we saw in Ferguson and Baltimore and not one of them is charged anywhere close to these ranchers, there is something wrong with our legal system.
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