Malhuer National Wildlife Reserve Armed Protest

[Wannabe]

I'll rephrase it. Why is the Fed. government controlling (owning) land that Should belong to the State?

[Mike]

I'll rephrase it. Why is the Fed. government controlling (owning) land that Should belong to the State?

I have the same question.

[wacojoe]

Nice graphic.

[FredK]

Who says they have to sell it?

[wacojoe]

I've always wondered how much the government could raise off the sale of sites on the north rim of the Grand Canyon? Spiffy views and remote is not even a good word for it.

[2ndthyme]

began with the Louisiana Purchase which established the federal government as the direct administrator of immense amounts of non-state land. However, the ideological justification for permanent federal ownership really began to gain influence by the late 19th century as many Americans, including influential economists of the time, began to adopt ideologies that saw centralized government as necessary for regulating the economy. We see these ideological leanings in the creation of the Interstate Commerce Commission in 1887 which was initially created to regulate the railroads. Over time, the ICC became the inspiration for a host of other federal regulatory agencies that began to appear by the early 20th century.

As with the railroads, land in the west began to be seen as a "public resource" that required federal regulation as well.

But ideology was just one factor. The widespread nature of federal lands can also be attributed to mere administrative, historical, and geographic accidents that led to an expansion of federal land ownership well beyond what anyone had expected.

First of all was the fact of Indian settlement on Western lands. It may strike many as hard to believe, but the treatment of the Indian tribes west of the Mississippi was actually more restrained than it had been in Eastern states.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...hy-its-problem

[2ndthyme]

Who says they have to sell it?

different federal departs had differing one or 2 were meant to conserve it and another was meant to distribute for sale or use

[blaze]

I'll rephrase it. Why is the Fed. government controlling (owning) land that Should belong to the State?

$$ and power!

[Phillbo]

I've always wondered how much the government could raise off the sale of sites on the north rim of the Grand Canyon? Spiffy views and remote is not even a good word for it.

A few of my favorite get away and not be bothered for a few days spots are on the North Rim, let's not ruin it.

[mgrist]

I'll rephrase it. Why is the Fed. government controlling (owning) land that Should belong to the State?

Why should it belong to the state? I say that more as a devil's advocate than anything but thinking about it???? If the state's controlled the land there probably would be condos on the north face. It's out of reach now! Condo's won't be a local argument if it ever comes up. Politicians don't give a hoot about a few little condos, what would that hurt?

[Wannabe]

The people of a State should be able to determine what is done in their State Without Federal interference. That is the way the Founding Fathers meant it to be. The Great Despot Abe Lincoln changed all that and there again like Blaze said $$ and power was the reason.

[TxMusky]

As the federal govt is in hock for trillions of dollars the sale of those lands could bring in some revenue. That would also cut back on the number of federal jobs needed for the overseeing of that land and the States could take over what is already theirs. It is obvious that the feds have no idea how to run manage or take care of much of anything at all, so this would actually be something that could make their headaches go away.

[Mike]

It seems to me when the government carves out a state, all of non-privately owned land should become the property of the new state. The only exceptions should be for national parks and such.

[Wannabe]

Selling the land would reduce their power and decrease the size of government. Heresy.

[Wannabe]

It seems to me when the government carves out a state, all of non-privately owned land should become the property of the new state. The only exceptions should be for national parks and such.

Which needs to be done with the States(the People) approval.